These wires were bare and the plastic falLing off is this mud problem 

Sorry picture didn't post but it's wires on vp 44 I was fixing to remove it too see if it could be re soldered and its touching and wires bare 

14 hours ago, ItzReckless said:

These wires were bare and the plastic falLing off is this mud problem 

Sorry picture didn't post but it's wires on vp 44 I was fixing to remove it too see if it could be re soldered and its touching and wires bare 

Excuse spelling, but the solenoid wires , for IP was bare  I can wiggle them and it changes tone in idle , could this being shorting out and sending signals to shutoff ecm 

You need to ensure all the wires are repaired and not shorting to each other, shorting to ground or any kind of power. Hint... The truck will start and run with just power to the injection pump but no throttle response. So the data wires must be in good shape as well as the high idle and shut down leads. 

2 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

You need to ensure all the wires are repaired and not shorting to each other, shorting to ground or any kind of power. Hint... The truck will start and run with just power to the injection pump but no throttle response. So the data wires must be in good shape as well as the high idle and shut down leads. 

I'm gonna remove the IP TO REPAIR  wires because they are bare all the way down  thanks guys 

I bet it ran fine and when I got home and washed it the wires started touching , causing it to shutdown or whatever 

Just got to un-plug the pump and repair the wiring as needed. I don't see any reason to pull the pump for a wiring repair.

2 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Just got to un-plug the pump and repair the wiring as needed. I don't see any reason to pull the pump for a wiring repair.

I seen your comment on a different forum from before where a guy tried to tap his pump and the ones on bottom was bare and the top wires wasn't even tapped , well my bottom wired not the ones going to center of injector line out,  but the ones that run behind it, theyou are bare and sir the  wires are to short gonna find a way to add on and re install 

You suggested pump replacement 

 

I had to cut to get Edm off before I noticed how bad it was already cut top set like instructed, I was gonna see if a Sauder  come loose 

 

On 10/9/2016 at 8:34 PM, Mopar1973Man said:

Just got to un-plug the pump and repair the wiring as needed. I don't see any reason to pull the pump for a wiring repair.

Help help guys I am using a torque tool thing and instead of the IP coming out of gear the thing the bolts go into popped off time to shoot myself 

Pictures will make more sense to everyone here.

It's came out sorry pics say to big or what not 

Gothe it back in bled it , boom fired up , running fine , ;) so badon't vp wiring 

Definitely repair wiring as needed

40 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

Definitely repair wiring as needed

I did Bro, excuse my phone autocorrects , I'll use my computer at home from now on,  trucks running fine guys appreciate help 

Well guys seems I may just need myself a injection pump,  fuel is getting the the injectors btw , but I tried starting ND it fired up about 6 seconds died,  then started again then died , well needless to say wouldnt start regardless  which, injector I cracked, Idk guys I never have see more then a stream never high pressure were I have to shield my eyes did my high pressure side messo up with the wiring issues 

if you hot wire the IP (ie take 12v from the battery and wire it to the IP) it will help you determine if this is an IP problem.  Google Blue Chip Diesel Hot Wire, it helped me troubleshoot my dead VP44.

Personally I have never had a high pressure spew of diesel from opening the injectors, but i really back mine off. you wont see a high pressure spew of diesel unless you barely loosen them. But like @Hawkez says try the hot wire as mentioned on the Blue Chip site. It would be bad to replace the VP and find out it is not your problem. 

How do i gethe the pdm open , I know how to remove but not open to check wires 

I'll hot wire tomorrow 

You dont have to open anything up. Just unplug the wiring connector and connect to the pins. It is all on the Blue Chip Diesel site. Have you looked there for the procedure? 

Lmao i tried, no start needless to say I ordered new vp ,  well on the return line from the overflow to the T fitting, where do i get a new rubber seal for the flared end I heard of someone using 1/4 inch line 

Cummins sells the o-rings for the return line. I think Geno's garage does to.

1 hour ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Cummins sells the o-rings for the return line. I think Geno's garage does to.

Ok ,one question, the sensor under my IP. CAN WIGGLE  but the Allen head is tight , it makes somethings click in relays maybe this is my whole issue 

I can't say my power to vp test was successful but not sure I was getting connection , it's the cam sensor ? Or crank? Not sure the one behind starter is tight,  the one below the IP isn't it wiggles and with key on make sa clicking sound 

Edited October 16, 20169 yr by ItzReckless