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I feel that it is time to start building a list of tunes that we all use.

 

Please learn what each tuning variable does.  There V2 tuning article covers everything in depth along with a video explaining each item.

This tool will allow you to edit Quadzilla tunes from your PC.

 

Update 1/15/17 V2.2 tunes should include timing maxes for various RPM's and fuel load timing

 

Copy this into your post and fill out the info

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Power Levels:

 

Timing

Fuel Load Timing:

Low PSI Timing Reduct:

Timing Reduct Scaling:

Light Throttle Timing Adv:

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit:

 

Timing vs rpm

1500:

2000:

2500:

3000:

Timing Max:
 

Wiretap

Pump Stretch:

TPS Pump max:

TPS Pump Min

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI

 

Boost Scaling:

 

RPM Limit:

 

Power Reduction:

 

0 PSI %:

1 PSI %:

2 PSI %:

3 PSI %:

4 PSI %:

5 PSI %:

6 PSI %:

7 PSI %:

8 PSI %:

9 PSI %:

10 PSI %:

11 PSI %:

12 PSI %:

13 PSI %:

14 PSI %:

15 PSI %:

16 PSI %:

18 PSI %:

20 PSI %:

22 PSI %:

24 PSI %:

26 PSI %:

28 PSI %:

30 PSI %:

 

My Mods

7 x.009 DFI injectors, he351ve arduino controller

 

 

My Tunes

DD:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Fuel Stretch: 1700

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 8

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3500

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:84

1 PSI %:84

2 PSI %:85

3 PSI %:86

4 PSI %:87

5 PSI %:88

6 PSI %:89

7 PSI %:90

8 PSI %:92

9 PSI %:94

10 PSI %:96

11 PSI %:98

12 PSI %:100

13 PSI %:104

14 PSI %:108

15 PSI %:112

16 PSI %:116

17 PSI %:120

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:128

22 PSI %:132

24 PSI %:136

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

Tow:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 1

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 19

2500: 24

3000: 26

Timing Max: 27

 

Fuel Stretch: 1400

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:15

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:92

1 PSI %:92

2 PSI %:94

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:96

5 PSI %95

6 PSI %:95

7 PSI %:96

8 PSI %:97

9 PSI %:98

10 PSI %:99

11 PSI %:100

12 PSI %:102

13 PSI %:104

14 PSI %:108

15 PSI %:112

16 PSI %:116

17 PSI %:120

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:128

22 PSI %:132

24 PSI %:136

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

Race:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load: 1.5

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling:100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

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Fuel Stretch: 1800

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:10

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3700

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:94

1 PSI %:94

2 PSI %:95

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:97

5 PSI %:98

6 PSI %:99

7 PSI %:100

8 PSI %:102

9 PSI %:104

10 PSI %:106

11 PSI %:108

12 PSI %:110

13 PSI %:112

14 PSI %:114

15 PSI %:116

16 PSI %:118

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:126

20 PSI %:130

22 PSI %:134

24 PSI %:138

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

 

@Carbur8tr For your towing tune.

 

lvl's I like 6 because I don't like having to push the plus button 1000 times.  but you can set this to whatever you like

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:15

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 0

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:94

1 PSI %:94

2 PSI %:95

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:97

5 PSI %:98

6 PSI %:99

7 PSI %:100

8 PSI %:102

9 PSI %:104

10 PSI %:106

11 PSI %:108

12 PSI %:110

13 PSI %:112

14 PSI %:114

15 PSI %:116

16 PSI %:118

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:126

20 PSI %:130

22 PSI %:134

24 PSI %:138

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

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Np once you get your starting point % figured out let us know and we can help build a tune from there

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6 hours ago, thatblackvptruck said:

Ok thanks for the help

were you able to find a good starting % for your setup?

When towing do you still want to stay around 17-21 degrees of timing at hwy?

 

I know you don't want any cruise timing adv.

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That depends on your rpm.  What RPM are you towing at?

2000 to 2200 I am pretty sure

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2k revs on a tow tune I would do ~17* 

2.5k revs on a tow tune I would do ~21*

 

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Might take some time on Lvl 0 and watch how OEM timing works.  Might help you figure out what will work best for you.  

 Hey guys,

 

Im seeking help in regards to my wiretap tunes not being "smooth" it almost like my wiretap comes on and off when in lvls 3-5. My canbus tun is very smooth throughout the rpm range. When in the upper lvls you can hear the exhaust note ramp up and down when the wiretap is on and off, even when WOT. I'm using Me78569 stock injector tune w/ boost scaling at 20. I have stock injectors and turbo. 

I thought my V2 Tuning may have just needed an update so i did that today and it still behaves the same way. I have attached a data log file below.

 

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Power Levels: 6
RPM Limit: 3400

Maximum Valet Mode Power: 25%

 

Maximum Fuel Stretch: 2200
TPS Pump Maximum: 100%
TPS Pump Minimum: 0%
Minimum Pump Tap Fuel Precantage: 50%
Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 0
Boost Scaling: 20

Max Load Timing Offset: 3
Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2
Timing Reduct Scaling: 100%

Light Throttle Timing Adv: 1

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30


Timing vs rpm
1500: 16
2000: 18
2500: 23
3000: 25
Max: 26
 
PSI %: 101
PSI %: 103
PSI %: 105
PSI %: 107
PSI %: 110
PSI %: 113
PSI %: 116
PSI %: 119
PSI %: 122
PSI %: 125
10 PSI %: 128
11 PSI %: 131
12 PSI %: 134
13 PSI %: 137
14 PSI %: 140
15 PSI %: 143
16 PSI %: 146
18 PSI %: 149
20 PSI %: 150
22 PSI %: 150
24 PSI %: 150
26 PSI %: 150
28 PSI %: 150
30 PSI %: 150

iQuad-2017-03-25-01.32.141687763203.csv

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Verify your wiretap is connected well.  

 

Next drop your min pump tap fueling %.   Having min pump psi at 0 psi and min pump fuel % at %50 means that you are getting a min of 50 wiretap if you leave the line at high throttle.  

 

Try min pump tap %15 and pump low boost scale of 5 psi

@Me78569, @TFaoro, or anyone else who may be able to help: I just switched to a SO vp, and I have found that my daily driving tune needs to be tweaked to fit the new pump.  Everything was going fine until tonight, when the truck started acting up.  When revving, at the 1500 rpm point, the truck starts surging and popping, with plenty of white smoke.  I know this was a timing problem addressed before, so I am surprised to see it pop back up.  I am on the latest version of the Hard Fuel tune.  When the Quad is completely disconnected, the truck behaves normally again, so I'm hoping the issue is in my tuning.  Below I will post both my old HO pump tune and the new SO pump tune, in hopes someone can spot what I am missing.  

 

First, the old HO pump tune:

Power Levels: 11

 

Timing

Fuel Load Timing: 1*

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2*

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100%

Light Throttle Timing Adv: 2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

Timing vs rpm

1500: 15*

2000: 18*

2500: 22*

3000: 24*

Timing Max: 25*
 

Wiretap

Pump Stretch: 1800 us

TPS Pump max: 100%

TPS Pump Min: 15%

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage: 0%

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 2 psi

 

Boost Scaling: 25 psi

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 70%

 

0 PSI %: 83

1 PSI %: 83

2 PSI %: 84

3 PSI %: 85

4 PSI %: 86

5 PSI %: 87

6 PSI %: 88

7 PSI %: 90

8 PSI %: 92

9 PSI %: 95

10 PSI %: 97

11 PSI %: 99

12 PSI %: 101

13 PSI %: 103

14 PSI %: 105

15 PSI %: 109

16 PSI %: 111

18 PSI %: 113

20 PSI %: 115

22 PSI %: 117

24 PSI %: 119

26 PSI %: 121

28 PSI %: 123

30 PSI %: 124

 

And now for the new SO pump tune:

Power Levels: 11

 

Timing

Fuel Load Timing: 1*

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2*

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100%

Light Throttle Timing Adv: 2.5

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

Timing vs rpm

1500: 15*

2000: 18*

2500: 22*

3000: 24*

Timing Max: 25*
 

Wiretap

Pump Stretch: 1800 us

TPS Pump max: 100%

TPS Pump Min: 15%

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage: 0%

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 2 psi

 

Boost Scaling: 25 psi

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 70%

 

0 PSI %: 86

1 PSI %: 87

2 PSI %: 88

3 PSI %: 89

4 PSI %: 90

5 PSI %: 91

6 PSI %: 92

7 PSI %: 93

8 PSI %: 94

9 PSI %: 95

10 PSI %: 97

11 PSI %: 99

12 PSI %: 101

13 PSI %: 103

14 PSI %: 105

15 PSI %: 109

16 PSI %: 111

18 PSI %: 113

20 PSI %: 115

22 PSI %: 117

24 PSI %: 119

26 PSI %: 121

28 PSI %: 123

30 PSI %: 124

 

So the new tune is basically the same as the old tune, with different CANBus settings and a 3* timing advance instead of 2*.  Any thoughts on why the truck would start missing? This tune worked fine for a few hours and then the truck started to act up.

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Datalog datalog datalog.   In my experience white smoke and popping is due to too little timing.

 

Does this happen on the road?  Driving easy? Hard? 

 

You can try to mirror OEM timing 

 

1500 13*

2000 14*

2500 18*

3000 24*

3500 26*

This issue started after driving on a very long washboarded gravel road. At first it would pop in gear and free revving, but towards the end of the road when I unplugged it, it would pop once when in gear, not at all when it was slowly free revved, and really badly when it was quickly free revved. I will give OEM style timing a try and will do my best to get a data log of it

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My thought process on this issue

 

1. it was working without any changes ( so what changed?) 

2. why 1500 rpm?  ( oem timing is the low limit and quad 1500 setting is upper limit)  whats happening at that point? 

 

 

A data log would be very helpful so we can spot whats up. 

 

I would also drive around on lvl0 only for a bit and see if it happens still after a few days.  Drive it HARD.  At 1500rpm I would expect thew low limit setting of 8* to be enough to make it run without popping and smoking so I am not sure what is causing white smoke at such a low rpm.

 

 

Regardless I think I am headed up to denver friday to help a guy out, maybe we can meet up and see whats going on.  

Well there's no exciting data log to look at because the truck didn't do it today. Quadzilla plugged back in, same SO tune as above, and on level 3. So using Roadkill logic, that means it's fixed, right??  

Just kidding, I'll still keep an eye on it

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Trevor as we chatted about I owuld just keep and eye on things

 

The hard limits in place on the Quad are not low enough to cause white smoke at that low of an RPM.  Limits are 8* to 30* so at 1500 rpm you would need less than 8* to cause white smoke.

23 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

Trevor as we chatted about I owuld just keep and eye on things

 

The hard limits in place on the Quad are not low enough to cause white smoke at that low of an RPM.  Limits are 8* to 30* so at 1500 rpm you would need less than 8* to cause white smoke.

Could be a VP issue, I looked at a 2nd gen with a similar miss at 2000 rpms

Is there a link to the downloads for the old tunes? I want to flash the old tune and see if I still have the same issue. I had the ADR2_COMP before I flashed the V2. Don't want to go through the hassle of shipping it to quadzilla.

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Just watched your video. 

 

Is your tc unlocked during that?  I have to say I can't even begin to guess what is causing it.  It looks like your tc is unlocking or something.     

 

Gonna think on it.

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