Jump to content
Posted

I've been needing tires on my dually for awhile. When I got stuck (saturday) in the wet grass, spun, but didn't tear up the yard, I knew I had issues. Later that day, towing my 20ft enclosed down the 2-lane back roads, I was traveling about 15mph. Went to pass the bicycle while climbing a slight grade, I added throttle and spun the tires with ease..

Now, these tires (Firestone Transforce AT, 235/85-16) aren't bald, by any stretch, but they are getting close to their end of life cycle..

I decided to look for tires. My sizes were 215/85-16, 235/85-16, or 245/85-16.

I searched and searched, and 6 tires seemed to average about $1000 or so, shipped. Locally, that figure was higher.

I did about 6hrs of combined research on the Treadwrights. I also checked the state laws on re-treads for the steer axle, and it's legal here, with exception to commercial vehicles.

I spoke with someone at Treadwright, and they said that I could expect 40-60k out of a set, provided I stayed diligent with rotation and pressure, as well as alignment.

I couldn't find much in the way of "negative" with these. So, I bit the bullet on a set (6) of 245/75-16 Warden A/Ts (E). I'm hoping they'll be here this week. I'll definitely keep you guys posted on how these turn out.

I did not get the B2B style.

The tires ran $90 each, $540 for the set of six, and $144 shipping. Total was $648.48 delivered.

Posted Image

  • Replies 80
  • Views 12.4k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

Featured Replies

  • Author

Those look a lot like BFG AT's. On that note the transforce At's are built on a truck casing and can be recapped like the toyo M55. Trying to remember the place down in Chantilly. Alban tire maybe? they used to re-cap a lot of construction tires for me.

where are you at, Russ?

recapped tires need to be higher psi. they can't take the heat a 'flexing' tire produces. So, when I am unloaded, 55-60 works fine for daily driver short haul type stuff, but soon as the stock trailer is attached, I'll run 70-80, ESPECIALLY running longer distances. HEAT is not our friend here! Oh, btw, I've never had a balance issue either, Treadwright guarantees em to within 1 oz.

where are you at, Russ?

Right now I'm just north of San Diego, but I'm from Idaho, and Lived in Leesburg, Va for a few years, worked at Dulles Airport and Mountaineer Pipe Corp. in Sterling, Va. That's when I was dealing with the construction tires. I used to go over to Winchester on a regular basis. Got lost the first few times from guys at work giving me directions like "just past Leesburg mountain" Never did find a mountain around Leesburg, a couple rolling hills sure, but no mountain...
  • Author

Lol. Yeah. I worked on "the mountain" a few years ago. Relatively speaking, it's a mountain here ;)Tires showed up today. Ill get them mounted and front end alignment on monday while im at hospital under the knife. Apparently tapatalk wont give me the option to attach pictures noe. Wtf. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

  • Author

They're BFG T/A KO casings.[ATTACH]5549[/ATTACH][ATTACH]5550[/ATTACH]Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

post-10339-138698202406_thumb.jpg

post-10339-138698202421_thumb.jpg

  • Author

Ok wtf. Im here getting them static balanced and it's calling for 13.5oz???? Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

  • Author

there are none. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Is this a dot of any kind or just bird crap? If its a dot put it at the valve stem.

post-45-138698202446_thumb.jpg

  • Author

Its a petal from a tree blossom. They eventually got them balanced then aligned the front end. [ATTACH]5555[/ATTACH]Toe was way out. The RF camber is a tad concerning to me. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

post-10339-138698202455_thumb.jpg

Apparently some dont put the dot on anymore as its apparently more the wheels fault these days. Who knows. I'm not a tire specialist lol.

Should have told them to crank the caster up to the max, anything under 4 is what causes them to wander, need to get them to 4 or higher even or what ever they can get out of the factory adjuster cams, usually can get up to 4.5 degrees. A good alignment tech should know that they always take the caster to the high side of spec at a minimum, If you look at sports cars and almost all import cars they have a LOT of caster compared to American vehicles.

- - - Updated - - -

Apparently some dont put the dot on anymore as its apparently more the wheels fault these days. Who knows. I'm not a tire specialist lol.

I have had horrible luck with wheels in the past, tires that took a ton of weight to balance and still shook, after talking them into dismounting several and spin the rim alone they mark the heavy spot that way and then it makes life much easier in the long run, modern rims are horrible as far as not being balanced anymore from what I have seen. Too easy to blame the tire, it takes a good tire man to get them done right with little weight but it can be done, just doesn't work in the hectic fast paced world we have come to know where everyone wants everything done yesterday.
  • Author

I checked the tire pressure this evening, and tomorrow, I'll be reducing the pressure. All 6 are 75psi.. I will probably run 70 in the fronts and 65 in the rears, unless I'm loaded and/or towing.

  • 2 weeks later...
  • Author

So I towed my 20 ft enclosed at about 5000# gross yesterday. It was one word: squirrelly. Almost uncomfortable. Rears were about 75, fronts were 60-65. Ive since set fronts to 70 and rears to 65. It definitely seems to ride on the centers of the treads. [ATTACH]5608[/ATTACH]Now I dont know if thos it a tire issue, air pressure issue, or a front end issue that reared its head after the alignment. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

post-10339-138698202976_thumb.jpg

What exactly do you mean by squirrelly?I'm not sure which process treadwright uses to retread their tires but my dad got a set of retreads put on the rear of his F-450 that were "cold" retreads and for the first few thousand miles when you took a turn after the tires got warmed up it felt almost like the rear end would start to drift uncontrolled and it was a scary feeling till you got used to it or it goes away.Just looked at treadwrights website and it looks like they used the hot wrap method for retreading which is a whole lot better than the "cold" retreading method.

  • Author

By squirrely, I mean it that its very unstable feeling, like its on ice almost Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

  • Owner

Heck. I just got another heavy load of firewood yesterday and had both front and rear axles inflated at 60 PSI the only thing that was squirrelly was the fact the load was so tall that the truck rocked back and forth on highway. Very stable other wise just the center of gravity was way high. Set of 235/85 R16 HighFly's ...:wink:

I have heard similar complaints from friends with Toyos during the first few thousand miles. Those look like pretty deep treads are they a soft compound? Maybe a tad higher pressure next load?

  • Author

Heck. I just got another heavy load of firewood yesterday and had both front and rear axles inflated at 60 PSI the only thing that was squirrelly was the fact the load was so tall that the truck rocked back and forth on highway. Very stable other wise just the center of gravity was way high. Set of 235/85 R16 HighFly's ...:wink:

And...?? :think::cool: I I'll give them some more time. As for more air pressure, they're already riding on the center-most 2/3 of the tread, as it is. Wouldn't that just make it 'worse'?

I might have to agree with you on more pressure. If nothing else it would seem to me to wear the centers out prematurely. The photo does appear to show them riding on the center 2/3 of the tread. I am curious as to what you ended up with cost wise. Tires, shipping, mounting and balancing.