Quadzilla V2 Custom Tunes

[Mopar1973Man]

31 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

 pizza cutter life 

 

There is very little difference is size. 

 

Width 1.1" inches narrow, Height it's 0.04" taller. But the key feature is 235's are 23-25 pounds lighter! Only 1 rev/mile difference. Way less rotational mass.

[TFaoro]

3 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

Hahahaha there are actually a few lines of code in the new tuning commented with Tyler's wish is my command....

 

Also really anything over 125-130% up top will max out the fueling message.  The ECM can and will ask for a fuel message of 3600.

Every now and then I have a decent idea! Glad my name is stuck somewhere haha. Got the tune made. If it's pretty clean I'll post it up. 

 

4 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

There is very little difference is size. 

 

Width 1.1" inches narrow, Height it's 0.04" taller. But the key feature is 235's are 23-25 pounds lighter! Only 1 rev/mile difference. Way less rotational mass.

Those are right at 2" narrower than the tires I have. Wider tires do help keep the rubber stuck on the pavement. I don't break the tires loose often with 200+ more hp. 

Had to go with taller tires on mine to get the revs down. Early G56 OD ratio isn't the best IMO. 

[Mopar1973Man]

235mm = 9.25

265mm = 10.43

10.43 - 9.25 = 1.18 inch difference. Math doesn't lie...

 

235mm x 85% = 199.75mm 

265mm x 75% = 198.75mm

199.75 -198.75 = 1.00mm difference in height... Math doesn't lie...

[TFaoro]

11 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

Those are right at 2" narrower than the tires I have

 

6 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

235mm = 9.25

265mm = 10.43

10.43 - 9.25 = 1.18 inch difference. Math doesn't lie...

 

235mm x 85% = 199.75mm 

265mm x 75% = 198.75mm

199.75 -198.75 = 1.00mm difference in height... Math doesn't lie...

I've got 285's, which are 11.2205" wide.  1.96853" wider than 235's

My sidewall height is 199.5mm or 32.708" from top to bottom.  (285/70/17)

 

Yours are 31.725, assuming you have 16's.

 

Aren't the stockers 265/70/17? Can't for the life of me remember. 

[Mopar1973Man]

Stock tire size is 265/75 R16.

[Dieselfuture]

If I select a different vehicle under vehicle selection will it delete all my saved tunes on the current vehicle? I know you've discussed that before.

Reason I'm asking, at first I have chosen a different vehicle not under v2betta but just regular one, make and model of my truck, I was still using old software for few days . Now trying to save names on beta software and it says that name already exists, I'm guessing from old tune on other software so I want to choose a different vehicle and delete Tunes I made there 

[Dieselfuture]

Is this for canbus only? and adjusted on level 3 

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[Me78569]

lvl 0 stock

lvl1 = power reduction mode

lvl2 = 0-10 psi of what you posted

lvl3 = 0-30 psi of what you  posted

lvl4 += 0-30 of what you posted plus wiretap.

[Dieselfuture]

16 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

lvl 0 stock

lvl1 = power reduction mode

lvl2 = 0-10 psi of what you posted

lvl3 = 0-30 psi of what you  posted

lvl4 += 0-30 of what you posted plus wiretap.

So is it yes then, on level 3 from what I posted using that chart I'm only using canbus fueling? and level 4 and up wire tap comes in, but it's not using same table as can bus above but adds to it through TPS Pump MAX and NIN settings and the Fuel Strech?  Then where does Pump Low Boost Limit % and Pump Low Boost Scale PSI come in, at given PSI of Boost? Lets say Tune I'm using it's set at 8% is this 8 PSI? so when I get to 8 psi of boost, if I'm on level 4 or higher that's when Pump wire tap kicks in? And if I'm on level 3 then Pump stretch never comes on? Sorry, but I think I'm getting really close on figuring this out. Will be taking programming classes soon 

[Me78569]

lvl 3 only uses canbus tuning.

 

lvl 4 will use wiretap starting at the psi you have configured HOWEVER if your Low Limit % is set above 0 you will get that % of wiretap before the low limit psi is reached.

 

So your example of 8 psi %8 

 

From 0-8 psi you will get %8 of wiretap,

8-11 psi you will get 33% of %100 - %8 = 92 /3 or ~38% wiretap ( %30 = orginal %8 )

11-14 psi you will get anotheer 31 % so 38 + 31 = 69 %

14- 17 psi you will get the last 31 % 

[Dieselfuture]

So if Pump Low Boost Limit % is set to 0, then when does wire tap comes in by default at what point of psi or tps ?  and 8-11, 11-14, 14-17 math you're using, is it something also set by default?

[Me78569]

If it is set to 0% then you get no wiretap until your low limit psi is reached.  Think of the low limit psi as the point where wiretap comes on as normal, think of the % as being how much wiretap you want before normal wiretap is reached.  

 

The math I was using is just how the smoothing feature is configured i the code.  Nothing you can change there, I was just showing you how wiretap ramps up once you hit that low limt.  We can't just say "hey we are at xpsi let fuel rip"  I would...and doescause the backend to let loose.  

[Dieselfuture]

 

  "If it is set to 0% then you get no wiretap until your low limit psi is reached."

Low limit PSI = TPS Pump Minimum?

I think I got it and no I'm not messing with you , too much going on at once trying to concentrate on something complex isn't easy. 

I've read and reread this Quadzilla Custom tuning In depth but noticed that names and terms used are slightly different and it's making me second guess myself, like under  Wiretap Tuning it says  (Low Boost Pump Scaling: 0-100%) phone app says Pump Low Boost Limit%  and  (Low Boost Limit Pump: 0-25 psi) phone app says Pump Low Boost Schale PSI 

Also  Timing Reduction Max says (The range for this reduction is 0-10*) but on the app it's 5*

So you can see where it's a bit confusing for someone that just trying to figure it out. I hate to ask a million questions, but if I'm not 100% sure what I'm adjusting then none of it will work right. Not sure if there is a way to have instructions mach the names to be identical to whats on the phone app or vice versa. Not a complaint just a suggestion. I'm sure there are people out there dumber than me and wondering same thing, maybe not. 

 

 

[Me78569]

Its on my list of stuff to get to.  I need to make sure the words match and the % match the final configuration.

 

LOW limit Psi is not the same at TPS pump min. TPS pump min is to prevent wiretap when throttle is below that %.  Psi low limit is purely based on boost.  

 

 

[Dieselfuture]

Thank you Nick I had a felling something was a bit off. I realize that this is all new and it takes time to get it where it needs to be. 

Would you guys think this be a good tune for MPG with 60hp injectors

 

Fuel Load timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Pump Stretch:1200

TPS Pump max:100

TPS Pump Min:25

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling:40

 

RPM Limit:3200

 

Power Reduction:

 

0 PSI %:96

1 PSI %:96

2 PSI %:97

3 PSI %:98

4 PSI %:99

5 PSI %:100

6 PSI %:101

7 PSI %:102

8 PSI %:104

9 PSI %:106

10 PSI %:108

11 PSI %:110

12 PSI %:112

13 PSI %:114

14 PSI %:116

15 PSI %:118

16 PSI %:120

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:126

22 PSI %:128

24 PSI %:130

26 PSI %:130

28 PSI %:130

30 PSI %:130

Edited June 15, 2017 by Me78569

[Me78569]

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Fuel Load timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Pump Stretch:1400

TPS Pump max:100

TPS Pump Min:25

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling:40

 

RPM Limit:3200

 

Power Reduction:

 

0 PSI %:96 ** you might bump this by a few % depending on how cleaner your injectors are

1 PSI %:96 **

2 PSI %:97 **

3 PSI %:98 **

4 PSI %:99 **

5 PSI %:100 **

6 PSI %:101 **

7 PSI %:102 **

8 PSI %:104 

9 PSI %:106

10 PSI %:108

11 PSI %:110

12 PSI %:112

13 PSI %:114

14 PSI %:116

15 PSI %:118

16 PSI %:120

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:126

22 PSI %:128

24 PSI %:130

26 PSI %:130

28 PSI %:130

30 PSI %:130

 

Edited June 15, 2017 by Me78569

[Dieselfuture]

I know this aint mcdonalds but I'm loving it. 

Ok I just tried this tune below for MPG and truck seems ok with it, no hase at all on take off, accelerates ok given these parameters, reason I didn't put anything for  Pump Low Boost Limit: and  Pump Low Boost Scale %  and TPS Pump Min:25  is I don't want wire tap at all for my mpg tune. Plus I leave it on levl 3 just to be sure. Truck is empty with topper on going about 55-60 and now i lowered PSI% down quiet a bit and it's not that much different other than can bus is a tad lower. I was switching between my DD tune and MPG tune just to see the difference at steady speed and it didn't seem to change much other then egts a little and canbus fuel in data logging was higher with DD tune. So not sure where I'm heading yet but truck is definitely smoke free and smooth. I might reduce timing a little just because I'm using less fuel. How does Timing Limit work VS Cruise Timing Advance? 

  

Fuel Load timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Pump Stretch:1200

TPS Pump max:100

TPS Pump Min:25

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling:40

 

RPM Limit:3200

 

Power Reduction:10

 

0 PSI %:90

1 PSI %:91

2 PSI %:92

3 PSI %:93

4 PSI %:94

5 PSI %:95

6 PSI %:97

7 PSI %:98

8 PSI %:99

9 PSI %:100

10 PSI %:101

11 PSI %:103

12 PSI %:104

13 PSI %:105

14 PSI %:106

15 PSI %:108

16 PSI %:109

18 PSI %:112

20 PSI %:114

22 PSI %:117

24 PSI %:120

26 PSI %:123

28 PSI %:126

30 PSI %:129

Just noticed there is no 17PSI%

Edited June 15, 2017 by Me78569

[Me78569]

It will take 10 - 15 seconds for the tune to fully apply when you switch it on the fly.  No issues doing so just keep that in mind.  

 

I doubt honestly you would notice much difference because the truck requires x HP to keep moving at a given speed.  Changing the tune prob won't change much within reason.  

 

Timing Limit is really taking into account when you are on the gas pedal, at low boost it really doesn't do much and at cruise it is actually ignored.  Cruise timing is ONLY used when MPH and TPS are stable and above ~35 mpg.  

[Dieselfuture]

On 11/9/2016 at 6:18 AM, Dieselfuture said:

If I select a different vehicle under vehicle selection will it delete all my saved tunes on the current vehicle? I know you've discussed that before.

Reason I'm asking, at first I have chosen a different vehicle not under v2betta but just regular one, make and model of my truck, I was still using old software for few days . Now trying to save names on beta software and it says that name already exists, I'm guessing from old tune on other software so I want to choose a different vehicle and delete Tunes I made there 

Ok the amswer is no, I went to previous vehicle I had selected and deleted all tunes and then went back to v2betta and everything was still there, and yes I couldn't create a tune that had a same name on different vehicle selection 

[xxTJRocksxx]

We need an update to the Iquad app, to allow copying profiles and deleting / renaming them.