02 smoking on startup and while driving till temp

[Reg02]

Hey guys, 

 

So the truck will let out huge cloud if sitting for a few days. Clears up to just a little haze right away. Idle for a min then driveaway smokes till the truck is warm. Then gone and cant make it smoke and runs to what I think is perfect. 

If ran everyday the first startup puff of smoke is small but still smokes till up to temp. I have ran a bottle cleaner with little inprovement. 

 

Have been reading for awhile on line now with out any great success. Thinking hoping only injectors cause I wouldnt mind upgrading anyway. 

 

Anyone have this same problem. 

 

 

[Me78569]

what color is the smoke? 

[Reg02]

Mostly white, 

a little blueish while driving it till temp. 

 

I do run two stroke aswell. 

[Me78569]

any codes when you use a scanner tool?

[Reg02]

Yes 0216 and 0500  

i had a bad abs sensor changed and cleared codes they have not returned yet. 

I jave read that 0216 may have to do with the VP:( 

[woodtrucker]

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Edited July 31, 2018 by woodtrucker
sorry I thought this came in on my pm. sorry! lol

[Reg02]

I use my edge cts to scan

[Me78569]

p0216 is saying the timing piston is sticking in the vp44.  Once you get heat into it the vp44 case expands and the piston free's up.  

 

 

[Reg02]

Thats no good. I only have about 70k on that pump. Running two stroke the hole time. 

So this thing is just going quit one day then. 

The last one was at 117k and got the dead peddle.

[Me78569]

pretty much.  

[Reg02]

Whats the most reputable place to buy a pump? 

 mine is tapped and if I remember correctly I can’t use it as a core??

[Me78569]

they will take it as a core.  I prefer Diesel Auto Power as they are a vendor here. They have by in far the best customer service I know of.

[Reg02]

What does this code mean 1693

this may have been the code not the 0216 

 

[Me78569]

1693 is telling you the other computer has a code. 

https://mopar1973man.com/cummins/articles.html/24-valve-2nd-generation_50/51_engine/obdii-error-codes_94/

[Reg02]

Ok great link thanks. 

I have to see if any codes come back. I just checked again and still nothing from the last few days. 

 

If i dont get the 0216 code do you think my issue could just be injectors. Like maybe a sticky one or something? 

[Me78569]

%95 of the time if you see a 216 code the vp is on it's way out.  

 

White smoke is another indicator of that.  

[Reg02]

Ok, I understand that if I have that code it will be the pump. 

 

But I’m not 100% that the 0216 was the code that was with the 500 code. It may have been the 1693. 

 

The 0216 should come pretty quick tho if thats what was there before right? 

 

 

 

[Dieselfuture]

I wouldn't wait to long, you got signs of vp going if it was me I'd be getting one. What pump do you have now, where did it come from. 

On occasion I have some whiteish smoke but no codes, latly I've been getting some smoke on start up but it's more gray and smells like burning oil  I just had my head redone last summer and had new guides put it, sure hope it's just a defective valve seal and not a wore out guide. I'll do oil analysis to see if I got some excessive brass in there, I hope not, I'll be pissed and trading it in for a 4th gen like some people here , deleted of course. 

But then again I'm mostly talk....

[Reg02]

2 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

I wouldn't wait to long, you got signs of vp going if it was me I'd be getting one. What pump do you have now, where did it come from. 

On occasion I have some whiteish smoke but no codes, latly I've been getting some smoke on start up but it's more gray and smells like burning oil  I just had my head redone last summer and had new guides put it, sure hope it's just a defective valve seal and not a wore out guide. I'll do oil analysis to see if I got some excessive brass in there, I hope not, I'll be pissed and trading it in for a 4th gen like some people here , deleted of course. 

But then again I'm mostly talk....

 

Its a stock replacement from BD diesel. 

 

Ya I would love to get my hands on a 4th gen crew cab long box. There is a nice 12 close to me just dont have the cash. Want this one to last me a few more years yet. Not a good time for my VP to be taking a s**t

[Mopar1973Man]

10 hours ago, Reg02 said:

 

Its a stock replacement from BD diesel. 

 

Ya I would love to get my hands on a 4th gen crew cab long box. There is a nice 12 close to me just dont have the cash. Want this one to last me a few more years yet. Not a good time for my VP to be taking a s**t

 

You think the VP44 is expensive what till you changing injectors on a 4th gen and the nearly $4,000 price tag.