Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
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Humm odd.  Only seems to be an issue when timing is up near 20*?

 

I've never had this happen on my long highway trips I will keep an eye out for it.

1 hour ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Idle. Vehicle stopped.

 

Just make a 40 to 50 mile run down the interstate with 20-20.5* timing exit the interstate and come to stop. It will randomly miss. Normal idle speed (850 RPM), coolant (195*), IAT doesn't matter, TPS (ZERO), etc. All you need is the A/C to cycle and the miss will vanish. 

 

Drop cruise timing 1-2* and it will not show up. 

Uh....850rpm??? Does everyone else's idle at 850rpm? I idle at 800. 

815 here.  New injectors dropped it to 11.22* of timing and 803 RPM for about a day, and then it went back to the normal 11.25* and 815 rpm

I seem to remember mine idling just under 850 until I put the RV275's in. Then it went to just over 800.  

I'll grab a screenshot today and post idle RPM.

@Me78569 fix our idle differences!!  

1 hour ago, TFaoro said:

@Me78569 fix our idle differences!!  

 

Push a set of +50 injectors in.. Fixed...  I know that's not going to happen... 

9 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Push a set of +50 injectors in.. Fixed...  I know that's not going to happen... 

But maybe some 125's or 150's! We'll see what Nick and I come up with. We had a good chat about some injector stuff over the weekend. 

13 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

But maybe some 125's or 150's! We'll see what Nick and I come up with. We had a good chat about some injector stuff over the weekend. 

 

 

Do tell... Let's here about the chat share your ideas... 

Some thoughts about maybe raising the pop pressure on some bigger injectors says 7 x .011's ish maybe 12's and see if we can reduce the issues related to the limitations of pressure control in our injection system and limitations of mechanical injectors.

31 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

Some thoughts about maybe raising the pop pressure on some bigger injectors says 7 x .011's ish maybe 12's and see if we can reduce the issues related to the limitations of pressure control in our injection system and limitations of mechanical injectors.

I can send my 300's in to them to be set at a higher pressure if they want. I don't really want to be running around on stock HO injectors with 140K on them in the mean time though.... We'll see. If you get a chance to talk to them @Me78569 let me know what they say. Injectors take less than an hour usually. 

But those work good @TFaoro!  Better than the ones you had anyways...

lets let things settle for a bit before we go changing stuff.  Stepping down injectors to a smaller size is also a good choice, there is honestly no need for huge injecotrs a DD truck,  500 hp is still fun to drive.

Can confirm, truck scoots at 500 hp.

Careful screwing with pop pressure on auto trucks. I know Tylers is not but something others should be aware of.

49 minutes ago, jlbayes said:

Careful screwing with pop pressure on auto trucks. I know Tylers is not but something others should be aware of.

Well don't tease us.  I don't know the result and  I would much rather listen to someone who has already spent time messing with it. 

16 hours ago, TFaoro said:

Uh....850rpm??? Does everyone else's idle at 850rpm? I idle at 800. 

 

Can someone remind me on TPS Pump Min vs Pump Low Boost Scale, which one controls when wire tap starts and which one assists. I think it's been mentioned but you know. ...

57 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Okay that's kinda weird. Everyone is idlng different. 

 

9 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

Can someone remind me on TPS Pump Min vs Pump Low Boost Scale, which one controls when wire tap starts and which one assists. I think it's been mentioned but you know. ...

Both requirements have to be met in order for wiretap to take effect. 

So say your settings are boost 15 and tps 40.

If your boost is 35 and TPS is 25 you will not get wiretap

If boost is 10 and tps is 100 you will not get wiretap.

Once both conditions are met you get wiretap.