Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
Changed the title for SEO reasons

Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback. I had a feeling it could have been the thermostat... that sounds exactly like the culprit of my "downhill cooling". 

 

@Me78569 by increasing wiretap PSI that is the Pump Low Boost Scale PSI line correct? What would you suggest?

 

 

For your DD tow and mpg tunes I would beef up your canbus tuning from 0 psi to 10-15psi by a few %.  And raise your Pump Low Boost Scale PSI to above your normal DD driving PSI.  

 

for your fun tune then just throw as much fuel as you want at it.  I would not suggest  Minimum Pump Tap Fuel Precantage: 50% haha, that means that if you go WOT you will get no less than %50 of your total wiretap.....  coal train, flooded turbo, smokey pig haha.  I would suggest a fun tune setting this at %25 if you really wanna get going.  

 

We need to remember that Canbus fueling makes up %75 of the fuel your truck will get, wiretap only adds %25 on top.  So the more canbus fuel you run the more power you will have. 

 

I would start on lvl3 only, and tune your canbus to be as aggressive as possible where you only have haze at WOT then start looking at wiretap.   

 

The more tuning time you have the happier you will be.  

35 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

For your DD tow and mpg tunes I would beef up your canbus tuning from 0 psi to 10-15psi by a few %.  And raise your Pump Low Boost Scale PSI to above your normal DD driving PSI.  

 

for your fun tune then just throw as much fuel as you want at it.  I would not suggest  Minimum Pump Tap Fuel Precantage: 50% haha, that means that if you go WOT you will get no less than %50 of your total wiretap.....  coal train, flooded turbo, smokey pig haha.  I would suggest a fun tune setting this at %25 if you really wanna get going.  

 

We need to remember that Canbus fueling makes up %75 of the fuel your truck will get, wiretap only adds %25 on top.  So the more canbus fuel you run the more power you will have. 

 

I would start on lvl3 only, and tune your canbus to be as aggressive as possible where you only have haze at WOT then start looking at wiretap.   

 

The more tuning time you have the happier you will be.  

Sounds good I will be tweaking the tunes and having some fun with it. Thanks @Me78569 I will keep you guys posted on the tunes after the road trip!

I woudl wager that your MPG will come up if you bump your cruise timing to ~2-3 rather than .55.  

 

 

35 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

I woudl wager that your MPG will come up if you bump your cruise timing to ~2-3 rather than .55.  

 

 

I tried that when I was towing and it went down to 17mpg. Would it be different if I am empty? I'll try it out here shortly. I am getting on the road. Stay tuned

your guess is as good as mine lol if .55 as better then stick with that and tell me to shutup  

Just wanna say thanks to @Me78569 for his coding abilities.  Those new backdowns are amazing when towing, really helps in the hills and when I can't be watching the EGT's all the time.  

The timing curves and setup is still quite a mystery to all of us being this is the first tuner that gives a wide range of timing control vs anything else on the market. All other programmers and modules have been just a boxed tune and take it or leave it type of thing so now trying to figure out what works best are going to take all of us to figure out and share our tune. So I've created a excel spreadsheet and going to keep it updated. I've also included an exponential growth calculator so you can create smooth fuel or timing curves. Set the start point and the percentage of growth and it will lay out 0 to 30 for calculation. For timing just think 0 to 4 and those are your numbers. Yes, Quadzilla does allow decimal point numbers in both timing and fueling. 

@Me78569 Is current v2.2 Standard Fuel updated with defuel option or does it have to be loaded separate 

Edited February 18, 20178 yr by Dieselfuture

It's in the windows 10 thread

3 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

It's in the windows 10 thread

I see the v2.2 standard fuel but wasn't sure if you incorporated new smooth defuel into it. or do I need to update defule separate 

14 hours ago, trreed said:

Just wanna say thanks to @Me78569 for his coding abilities.  Those new backdowns are amazing when towing, really helps in the hills and when I can't be watching the EGT's all the time.  

I am glad they work well.  I wasn't sure they would.

 

@Dieselfuture

 

I try to keep the latest stable flash in that thread.  The defueling is a part of the base tune so nothing else is needed.

Edited February 18, 20178 yr by Me78569

I guess what I'm tying to ask is the link below for defuel. I'm guessing you have updated V2.2 Standard Fuel to this already and all a guy got to do is reflash a quad with regular V2.2 and defuel will be updated as well, and there is no need to follow link below. ?

 

 

Here ya go,give this a try.   It will pull as much canbus + wiretap as needed to keep boost slightly below desired level,  It will bounce somewhat around the limit, but for my it stablized at about 20 psi when the limit was at 23.    Once it finds a happy defuel amount it will hold until boost falls.  

 

Anyways give her a go and let mw know what you think.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B46GXQ9arT2lUWR6Znk2N1gwbEU/view?usp=sharing

I updated the link in the windows 10 thread to have that file.  the above link was pre release for testing,  once it passed the tests I rolled it to release.

Tested defuel today, works good. Way better than before. I'll be using it now, thanks for looking into it. 

34 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

Tested defuel today, works good. Way better than before. I'll be using it now, thanks for looking into it. 

Defuel as in safety defuel or defuel as in turning the fuel down lower than stock?

Safety defuel. 

 

If you set egt limit to say 1300 the quad will hold fueling at a spot where max egt is below that. 

 

 

Same for boost, say you set defuel for 30 psi, the quad will fuel normally until 30 psi then start to pull fuel.

 

 

the Quad will pull as much fuel as needed to keep egt and or boost where you want it.   I personally don't use the defuel stuff as I dont see a need, but others might.

6 hours ago, crf450ish said:

Defuel as in safety defuel or defuel as in turning the fuel down lower than stock?

As in safety, had EGT and boost activated. When got close it just got steady and kind of held there without making it feel like my turbo just fell off the truck. 

@Me78569 my waste gate has been stuck shut for years now, so I will use it, thanks for making it work. 

@TFaoro you're right

 

 

 

i'm bored.

On 2/6/2017 at 11:32 AM, Me78569 said:

 

11 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

@TFaoro you're right

 

 

 

i'm bored.

Well you let me rip my truck apart so I haven't been able to find any issues....... yet! 

 

Let me think on it. Heading to the mountains tomorrow for some snowmobiling. Fresh mountain air always brings about some ideas. 

 

Maybe you need to move into the app development realm