Looked all over the site for the right place for this. Apologies if I missed a better place for it.....anyway long story short, I'm off to Canada for 2 weeks holiday just me and wife (1st holiday since 2009) once back I intend to buy either american rv or 5th wheel thing is I can't decide which would be best.  To break down costs an rv would be £230 road tax and approx  £200 insurance. 5th wheel is no cost per year. RV could pose a problem with manoverability especially the rear overhang as Wales and Scotland is a first and roads aren't american rv friendly. My 3500 is too big for parking spaces in my local town.... been fined twice for not being inside parking bay.....!  so pros and cons for both. Also uk/europe are really getting on diesels but I have both petrol and diesel so not bothered. I'm a mechanic so neither petrol or diesel or trailer is an issue

If your going for a 5th wheel around the 7700lb. range, with the average of 20% pin weight formula you should only be around 1600lb. on the hitch, your truck should be quite comfortable with that.

Quite a coincidence on your reply as I struck the deal last night on the 2012 Springdale I went to see a month or so ago. Euro truck towable so easy for my truck, funny thing is a month ago I offered the guy (dealer) 9k plus my TT he turned it down..... I sold my TT for 10k and the guy has just settled on 14k for the Springdale. I saved 5k, he needs to go to dealer school me thinks oh and he threw in a hitch for £350 which is half price here.... 

18 hours ago, wil440 said:

I sold my TT for 10k and the guy has just settled on 14k for the Springdale. I saved 5k,

Is that £ or $.

 

18 hours ago, wil440 said:

Euro truck towable so easy for my truck,

What makes it "Euro truck towable"?

5 hours ago, IBMobile said:

Is that £ or $.

 

What makes it "Euro truck towable"?

Price I got was in £ which isn't much difference to $ nowadays prob $12.5 at best.

Euro truck towable just means it's lighter  and 7ft 6" wide as everything else except American pickups are capped at below 3.5 tonnes which is around 7500lb ish. The width is better for euro as beds are short and our roads are narrow. This means for me I will be able to get pretty much anywhere I want to go ☺

I now have the next 4 days off work, thurs,fri,sat,sunday

Tomorrow I'm picking the new hitch up and mocking it under the trailer, coming home to fit it friday, made 4 large brackets to bolt it to the bed/frame.

Hopefully going to collect 5th wheel saturday if everything goes well, then again I might be staying home saturday as England play New Zealand at 7.30am our time with probably 8.00 to 8.30 kickoff, this will be an epic game of rugby and is augueably the real final, I doubt I'll be able to drive 400 miles without finding out the final score so saturday might need to be cancelled, might need to be a 7.30am beer start ..... if England lose... coffee by 10.am saturday, if England win coffee by 10.am Sunday with headache tablets 

7 hours ago, wil440 said:

if England win coffee by 10.am Sunday with headache tablets 

                                    

 

We need pics of the 5er and hitch.  

On a short bed a slider hitch is highly recommended, 

3 hours ago, 01cummins4ever said:

On a short bed a slider hitch is highly recommended, 

 

I'm pretty sure it's had a pin box extension specifically for euro trucks, this is why I'm picking the hitch up so I can mock it up underneath the 5th, so If I need a slider I can sort it out once as I hate doing things twice

 

4 hours ago, IBMobile said:

                                    

 

We need pics of the 5er and hitch.  

will have to get pics today

Got up there around 12.30pm, placed the hitch in the bed and sort of lowered the trailer onto/into it to check clearances

 

Trailer is quite a way from the back of the truck so thats all good, had maybe 4" clearance from the top of the tailgate to the underside of the pin box extension sides and I have 1 higher hole for the 5th to go up so I'll have maybe 5" or so.

Got to wire in a euro 13 pin plug which is a pain and I specifically didn't go that route with my TT but I'll have to with this one I'm sure

It also needs a 12v supply to it on a split charge relay so while the hitch might take me 1/2 a day to fit the electrics I can see will take longer

Weight is on the truck in the 2 pictures and it just about levels it out, it does look rear down slightly but the drivers wheel is on a curb which has slightly altered the passenger wheel well gap

 

 

Edited October 24, 20195 yr by wil440

On 10/23/2019 at 12:53 PM, wil440 said:

if England win coffee by 10.am Sunday with headache tablets 

Get those headache tablets ready.

54 minutes ago, IBMobile said:

Get those headache tablets ready.

 

I did actually fit my hitch and recorded the game as the run up started at 7.30am, I do like a beer but 7.30am is a tad early

even for me, 20 or 30 years ago no problem but nowadays time is a bit more valueable so instead of wasting the whole day I just wasted the later part. and wasted I am

it was good to see an English side prove that the All Blacks are only human after all, they hadn't lost in a world cup match since 2007

And also to be fair..... it's good to see you guys actually heard the outcome now it depends on tomorrows game between Wales and South Africa to see if it's a all Northern Hemisphere final or North and South for next saturday

 

On a less important note my hitch is fitted but I do have rust that was lurking behind the wheel spats /extensions, rockauto do keystone or sherman and luckily the rust isn't higher than the extension line so all good and easy to do and it rained big time all day and truck just doesn't fit into workshop so while I was out of the rain I still got soaked as it was running off of the cab and tool box onto the bed and then on the floor

Edited October 26, 20195 yr by wil440

5er was supposed to be delivered last Sunday it has took so long as had my whole drive dug up and tarmaced, Sunday was postponed due to storm Ciara which cause chaos with 80 mile an hour winds and 24hrs of real stair rod rain, did rearrange for this sunday but we got storm Dennis and another warning to life and property.... ah well maybe the sunday after

On 9/28/2019 at 5:27 PM, dripley said:

 

 

Posted by mistake.

Edited February 14, 20205 yr by kzimmer

39 minutes ago, kzimmer said:

 

Posted by mistake.

Better luck next time.

5 hours ago, wil440 said:

5er was supposed to be delivered last Sunday it has took so long as had my whole drive dug up and tarmaced, Sunday was postponed due to storm Ciara which cause chaos with 80 mile an hour winds and 24hrs of real stair rod rain, did rearrange for this sunday but we got storm Dennis and another warning to life and property.... ah well maybe the sunday after

I hope all goes well. It's been awhile, is that because you needed to improve your driveway to better accommodate the 5th wheel?

BTW, I saw what looked like a storm headed your way on a satelite photo. I was wondering since it looked very strong.

18 minutes ago, JAG1 said:

I hope all goes well. It's been awhile, is that because you needed to improve your driveway to better accommodate the 5th wheel?

BTW, I saw what looked like a storm headed your way on a satelite photo. I was wondering since it looked very strong.

Well yes and no. I had to fit the 5th hitch, then pondered on the fuel system on the truck and did that and a quad, by that time it got to the pre arranged date for the drive which  was a huge job at nearly 3500sqft or 320 sqm ish. I've just about finished the truck but it needed to be out my workshop so the 5th can sit in front of shop or I'd be blocked in.

Yes we had a good storm last weekend, luckily I was ill with a terrible cold so didn't venture out. It is shaping up now as wind is picking up, forecast a months rain tomorrow so flooding very likely

2 hours ago, dripley said:

Better luck next time.

I got Mike Rowe mixed up with Mike Holmes. I had a pretty good one liner ready for that tool until I realized it was the wrong guy, lol.

59 minutes ago, wil440 said:

 

Yes we had a good storm last weekend, luckily I was ill with a terrible cold so didn't venture out. It is shaping up now as wind is picking up, forecast a months rain tomorrow so flooding very likely

sounds like the UK’s strict carbon free energy policy’s to combat climate change is really starting to pay off,     

26 minutes ago, 01cummins4ever said:

sounds like the UK’s strict carbon free energy policy’s to combat climate change is really starting to pay off,     

? these 2 storms blew in from the west on the jet stream which is moving in upper atmos at 250mph, we seem to getting storm after storm coming over from you guys, at least it's not cold, we only get cold when wind is from north or east, and whatever we do here on climate I very much doubt its going  to change the JS one bit

We have one day next week without rain .....oh joy

43 minutes ago, wil440 said:

? these 2 storms blew in from the west on the jet stream which is moving in upper atmos at 250mph, we seem to getting storm after storm coming over from you guys, at least it's not cold, we only get cold when wind is from north or east, and whatever we do here on climate I very much doubt its going  to change the JS one bit

We have one day next week without rain .....oh joy

Sounds about like the weather we are having in the southeast us. More rain than dry days. Cant get anything done for it.