Started out just gonna clean out heater core etc then it turned into this. The entire cab is dismantled. Ha! Found some moisture issues, gonna clean up some wiring, put some new heat shield/noise damper in, blow out the dust, take out the whole hvac box and clean it, make some new door panels, redo my headliner, get seats cleaned etc. 

 

Any recommendations while I'm this far in? 

 

I honestly debated pulling the whole dash out and then building my own dash how I wanted it... if anyone wants to spark some interest in this I have a few ideas and pics. 

 

Door panels shouldn't be that hard to make, unless I just say screw it and buy some new ones or junk yard ones. But I really like the idea of custom door panels and dash! 

 

I'm sure I'll be doing some other stuff but this is a good starter for a thread. More pics coming! 

16 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Kind of like before and after fuel pressure gauges on the fuel filter. 

Makes perfect sense! 

 

@trreed that is sexy lookin!

 

Done a mock up on the passenger side fast cooler....

 

So what do yall think about this clearance here...

Heat is the obvious issue here...

Edited March 19, 20196 yr by Stanley

Better off without it. Personally your just placing the heat closer to the oil.

 

Then it would help to do some measuring of the oil first before buying coolers. I just spent 4 months where my oil temp never got over 100*F. Then in the summer time I rarely make it over 170*F even towing. Don't even need the coolers.

 

Well that's disappointing after buying them awhile back...

I'd like to use them since I have them... lol. Don't wanna be wasteful ya know. 

You'll find out that the oil will most likely be higher with the cooler on the passenger side unless you can wrap the exhaust pipe or install a heat shield. That would be more productive than the coolers.

I did think about wrapping the down pipe.. have to find some higher temp rated stuff.

I ran some quick numbers and looked some of my old heat transfer stuff.  (I could spend a day modeling it and still have a lot of questions on the variables.)

 

Since the exhaust pipe and cooler do not touch, there is no conduction.  When the exhaust is hot, you are moving down the road and the air is passing by, so no convection to each other, but cooling to the atmosphere happens.  The only mode of heat transfer is radiation.  (remember from the other thread, radiation is driven by emissivity...)

 

It comes down to a simple heat shield will in most situations reduce the radiated energy by half.  (watts/foot)  (I agree yes/no lets sit down with lots of beer and argue the finer points...)  Now that is radiated heat, not actual temperature.  Radiated heat is like at a big bonfire how your face and arms will feel like they are starting to sunburn (radiant heat) but when someone walks between you and the fire, you are all of a sudden you are cool.  (they blocked the radiant heat) 

 

Insulation seems to work better on paper.  (according to a spreadsheet I am running.)  6mm of the right insulation reduces the lost heat energy to 1/5.  (I thought the heat shield would be the same or even slightly better.  It may be, as I didn't factor in the the heat loss of the air moving by the surfaces...)

 

It looks like wrapping the area or going to a ceramic coated exhaust in that section would really cut down the heat transferred to the transmission. 

 

HTH

 

Hag

 

 

I used header wrap on my down pipe from the turbo until just past the fast coolers. I think that would suffice and provide a cooler trans most of the time, with the only exception being high power at low speed. 

@AH64ID that's the same idea I had... 

 

Hag has some pretty good info there.. 

21 hours ago, Stanley said:

 

Done a mock up on the passenger side fast cooler....

 

So what do yall think about this clearance here...

Heat is the obvious issue here...

That's why I put a filter on passenger side and a heat shield for the exhaust, only used one cooler on the driver side

It's got a filter in the passenger one haha... it's just kinda close to the exhaust 

 

It'll be fine, make ahead Shield like I did, or wrap your exhaust

oh by the way,  DF  I like your shield it seems so simple (and you did a nice job of fabrication!).

 

Hag

@Dieselfuture got a pic of this shield? 

 

I just posted this in another thread recently, NV4500 with coolers. Although it's hard to keep up with all of them

That looks good! I dont think I have enough room for that style wish i did though... 

That's a 5in exhaust, how big is yours

Hehe, well getting personal are we 

 

I've got 5in also. Lol. 

I'm sure you can squeeze something in that space 

Been a min, need to do another video update. Got a couple other issues arising. Gonna set me back again. I drove the truck last weekend about 5-7miles got everything warmed up after sitting for so long... it might be a longer video so bear with me... hope to have it up soon.