I'm looking to get a used programmer for my 00 24v 47RE.  I'm not looking for much horsepower and can't afford stacking chips, so I'm looking for one cheapo/used one to give me fuel economy.  I wouldn't mind a bit of horse or a bit of smoke or whatever, but I'm really just looking for mileage, as trans improvements have yet to come.  So far, been looking at Edge EZ, Diablo Powerpuck (with which I'll need a boost fooler, I guess), Superchips Flashpaq, or a Quazilla even though they're discontinued.

 

So I guess my question is: I don't want to endanger anything with a "pressure box" but on economy setting, am I really doing any harm?  If not, which of these is best for modest power gains and some fuel mileage?  I've read the manufacturer-stated gains but don't put much stock in what they say, or the reviews on amazon, ebay, etc.

 

If I could get timing and duration in combination with fueling, that'd be great but I guess that's in the next price bracket and more worryingly, in the next power level where I could damage the trans.

 

Not to mention finding these used is near impossible.  Might just go with whatever I can find.

Edited October 15, 201410 yr by gradymayhem

Not meaning to hi-jack this thread but I know of a guy who has a quad adrenaline for sale.  Would it be a rip at $250 used???  I have a power puck on my truck now and I'm pretty happy with it but I was just curious about trying something different.  Not really something I need but......

Update today and help needed: Pulled the 9000lb. 5th wheel 1000 miles in about 24 hours time to Florida. Used the ez on level 3 most of the time and it ran awesome. Just the power increase I was looking for and really liked the fuel economy, averaged about 12 mpg on the way down with about 350 miles mountain and windy interstate. Now, about the boost fooling- I put a simple turnbuckle on my hy 35 before I left to help it build pressure. I am now wondering if I should pull it off because of the abrupt defuellung at 28 to 30 lbs of boost (telling me the ez does not in fact do fooling. Though, I've never seen boost that high before, I attribute it to the ez's fuel increase) Would it be better to leave it on and defuel, or take it off and let the waste gate open? My thoughts would be the gate opening would keep the fuel coming , but would raise egt temps. Fyi, the trans ran 110 to 130 in overdrive for 95 percent of the drive, only heating to about 180 once in slow traffic. Egt's ran 900 most of the ride, with 600 lows to 1100 highs in the mountains lugging before shifting out of OD. What do you guys think?

Are you throwing an overboosting code? 

If it ran well up there I say leave it alone until you have a chance to order a boost fooler. If you aren't getting any codes don't worry about it!

I didn't look but good idea. No light though.

Just got back from the 2000 mile trip. Truck ran awesome and I averaged 12.5 mpg over 2100 miles with the ez on 3 most of the time. The real issue with the turnbuckle is that it builds so much boost, the truck won't go over 70 or so on any type of grade and when you get to a 5 percent or more hill, it slows to 55 or 60- not because the motor can't do it, but because of the defuelling. I still need to check the codes

I've been running my EZ on #2 with a boost elbow. When I'm going up a long grade of 5% or more the boost goes to 26 psi and the settles down to 24 psi and stays there. Now that's with the O/D locked out and speed set at 55-60 mph with about a 9000 lb load behind me. There are no temp problems, defueling, or codes set. The fuel mpg is about 10.5 when I go north to Reno (there are several long 6% grades to go up) and 12.5 heading south to home.

I see you have an auto- how did you boost elbow on an hy?

I have an HX35W    

Sorry to revive this thread but @IBMobile I was curious if you found something to put the EZ in something weather proof or not?

It hasn't been a priority with me. Living in So Cal it hardly ever rains, been in a drought the last 4 years. The last time the truck was driven in the rain was the second week of last May when I was in Wyoming. If I was to fashion something it would probably be a sturdy hard plastic container (Tupperwear®) with a removable top and cut a slit in the side for the wires to pass through. I would then seal the slit with clear silicone RTV and mount it on top of the relay box with Velcro®.

I had my ez on for 4 years in Iowa with snow and rain never had any problems with it.same spot at the pic above,great little box.

Good to hear, I read a couple places that the edge boxes are weather proof but I'd rather be safe then sorry. Do either one of you have any trans work done on your rigs? Or still running stock with the EZ?

I took the end cover of my edge ez, and while it looks like it is well sealed from the outside, I could tell there had been moisture inside. I would vote for some sort of box. 

If you guys are concerned, there is nothing like some good dielectric grease. 

CSM, that was something I had thought of as well, just not sure where it would fit on/in the box.

Had my trans rebuilt at 63K. Front band went out and all the junk,( band and clutch material) , took out the torque converter. I did a lot of backing up with my 5er and didn't have a trans temp gauge so I cooked the fluid and destroyed the transmission. I haven't had a problem since.

11 minutes ago, notlimah said:

CSM, that was something I had thought of as well, just not sure where it would fit on/in the box.

Primarily, connectors.  Then I would take the cover off the box (if it is like the juice modules) and RTV any gaps or holes before re assembly.  Although, it has been a while since I had a juice module to compare.

So when I got my truck it had a edge mileage max. My injection pump went out in the fall so it was replaced and then the next summer I started having some missing, lack of power, sputter what ever you want to call it and a hard start when starting so I took off the edge mileage max and the sputtering  etc went away. I got the hard start fixed by rewiring the lift pump to go off during cranking.  Since I drive by edge products every day. I took the mileage max  to them. They tested it and said it was bad and offered me a discount on something  new. So I've been without for a year and a half now. I really want to get better gas mileage so hooked the miliage max  back up and it's been running great for a couple weeks now. Very weird I was told it was bad. Seems to work fine now I think my mileage has improved and I can tell there is little  more power then without  it. I have the BHAF, high idle mpg kit bigger exhaust, winter fronts, scangauge ii, and I run 2 cycle oil. 

Edited December 7, 20159 yr by lrhull

A set of RV275's gave me a nice little bump in power and mileage. I ran a Banks Ottomind on mine long before the RV's with no mileage gain but good a power boost. I am running am Edge comp now and like it very much. Got a little mileage bump out of it also. I dont know much about the lesser tuners.