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  1. Nope, as far as I can tell everything is tip top for once lol thanks for the reply!
  2. Hi all, so im not sure but I may have a new problem creeping up on me. Last few days I've been enjoying having no major truck problems and running with the smarty on 5 and timing advanced to have a little fun. I like to get on it a little in 3rd and 4th when accelerating and watch the smoke a little bit. Anyway, today it seems like as the smoke clears up it gets a little gray/whiteish. Now I should point out that it is wet out today so it could be just spray. But if it's not road spray, what could cause this?
  3. lol believe it or not that is exactly what I did. Problem was, the set from Napa came in a huge box that allowed for the plastic tubing to not be bent at all. The set from autozone came in a much smaller box that had the tubing coiled up kind of.
  4. I actually already went to Napa. They took the hydros back with not argument. I told them the situation and they made no mention of getting them tested before giving my money back. I also told them about the construction of the hydros from auto zone and suggested that they try and get some like that as well. The guy was upset that I didn't have the original box for him to send them back in. I told him I was sorry, but obviously I didn't plan to return them when I bought and installed them. Thanks everyone for all the help! For anyone who is interested, the article on the pedal bushing replacement is finished and pending approval.
  5. This article is meant to serve as a step by step guide to removing your brake and/or clutch pedals. Specifically for the purpose of replacing and greasing the plastic bushings on the pedal pin. It may become necessary to replace the bushings as your truck ages and the plastic bushings become deformed and allow side to side movement of the pedals. I believe this procedure will be very similar for a truck equipped with an automatic transmission as well. Another thing I'd like to add is that the FSM is somewhat misleading when it describes how to perform this particular task. Feel free to look over it before hand like I did, but I'm confident you will find this article and other tips on the internet more helpful. First off, let me say that you won't need any special tools or skills for this task. A small hook like the one pictured below will come in handy though. You do have to be a little flexible as you will be laying under the dash for most of it. Some people recommend removing the front seat for more space. I chose not to do that because I thought it would be more trouble than it was worth. I'm not a huge guy (5'9" and 190 lbs), but not tiny either and I was fine. As far as parts, you will need at a minimum, 6 new pedal bushings. The dealer may tell you 4 because the diagram is slightly misleading, but you will need 6. You may also want to have a couple new retaining clips for the brake and clutch pushrods as well, and it would be good to pick up new E clips for the ends of the pedal pivot pin too. Step 1. Remove the knee bolster. All you have to to is remove the small philips head screws along the bottom and them it should pop off. Just be gentle so as not to break anything. Then you will see something like this. You may be able to do the project without removing this, but it makes everything a lot easier to see and give you better access over all. Step 2. Remove the spring retaining clips that hold the brake and clutch pushrods to the pedals. They look like this. To remove them, you must very gently pry on the center tab, and at the same time push the clip off the pin. A small, flat bladed screw driver works great to release them. Mopar1973man has a great video on youtube of a clutch master and slave cylinder replacement, and he does an excellent job of explaining how to remove these clips. If you do damage them, they are only a dollar or so at the dodge dealer. I don't know the part number, but I think they are pretty common as my local dealer had a ton on hand. It should be springy like this not flattened out like this. The new ones will be bent even tighter. Once the clips are off, you can remove the pushrods from both pedals. This allows them to swing backward or forward out of your way. The brake pushrod has a washer that goes between it and the spring clip. Be careful not to loose it. Step 3. Unplug the brake light switch. This is a good idea, because if you don't, your brake lights will be on until you get things back together. This is one instance where the FSM is a little misleading. It tells you you have to remove the brake light switch, however, you're not supposed to re install a brake light switch. So not removing it save you the $13 for a new one. And there is really no reason to remove it. It does have a safety clip that you have to pull towards the back of the truck first. Then you can squeeze the plug and pull it out. Brace the switch with your free hand as you undo the safety clip and pull the plug out, its only mounted by two small plastic wings. Here you can see the brake light switch unplugged. Step 4. Remove the E clip from the passenger side of the pedal pivot pin. It looks like this and is located almost directly above the brake pedal. This hook worked great for pulling them off. Once you have the clip off the passenger side, just slide the pin toward the driver side to make it easier to remove that E clip in the same way. Then you can slip the pin all the way out to the passenger side. The pedals will come off as you pull it out. Be careful to take note of where all the bushings go. Also be careful not to loose the little spring washer that goes on the right of the brake pedal, between it and the bushing like this. The dealer told me it is no longer available. Also be careful to remember which side of the pedal pivot pin is which. I don't know if it really matters, but to be safe I marked each end of mine. Here is what it looks like. Step 5. Clean everything up with brake cleaner and scotch brite if necessary. I used scotch brite to try and remove any and all roughness or burs on all the surfaces including the pedal pin and the holes that it sits in up under the dash. Step 6. Re assemble with a liberal amount of synthetic bearing grease on all surfaces. The pedals have a groove in the tube where the pivot pin goes and I used it like a grease groove. Be sure that the E clips snap into place on the ends of the pedal pivot pin when you re install them. These would be a good thing to check regularly to make sure they don't come loose. Also be sure the pushrod retaining clips snap into place. Thats it! Below are some extra pics to give you a good idea of what everything looks like under the dash. This is the passenger side of the pedal mount. The pushrod is for the brake master cylinder, and the bracket towards the center is what the brake light switch mounts to, it would be further toward the left. This is the brake light switch and pushrod as seen from below. In the background you can also see the hole where the pedal pivot pin goes. The is the other side of the pedal mount as seen from below. You can see the clutch master cylinder pushrod as well. This is what a well worn pedal bushing looks like.
  6. Hey everyone, I got lucky for once! My problem was caused by the hydraulics! So far the new set from auto zone seems to be working great. I like the feel of the pedal a lot better too. I also have a little free play at the top now too which I am very happy with. Below are the pictures of the new slave and master from auto zone. I apologize for not thinking ahead enough to take a side by side comparison. At least you can see the construction and the bleeder screw. Also, just to be clear, I am not doing this to put Napa down at all. In general I prefer to deal with them over places like auto zone and advance auto parts. However, there are some instances where I like auto zone better for their parts or their polices. This is one case where I think you get a better product and a better warranty from auto zone. However, I do have to give Napa credit for making at least there master cylinder in the USA. I didn't see a stamp on the one from auto zone, but the box said made in china. While that disappointed me a little bit, I am over all happier with auto zone for this part. Time will tell how it holds up I guess. Master from auto zone Slave from auto zone Master from Napa Slave from Napa
  7. Oh ok. Yes if I had read your sig I would have seen that lol. You may wish you still had it if you come up here too late in the fall....
  8. That should be fun! I've been stationed here since the end of 2012, and my wife and I have really come to like the area. Lots of wide open space and tons of water. Hit me up when you come up this way if you want :-) By the way, how come your grid heater cable is disconnected in that picture? Jw
  9. Thanks! I bled it before installing the unit in the same way you would one without a bleeder screw so hopefully all is good now but we'll see.
  10. hey guys. I just picked up the master and slave assembled from autozone and WOW! The master and slave are made from cast aluminum, not plastic! And, the slave has a BLEEDER SCREW!!!! I will post comparison pics later but overall this thing looks way better than napa's. My only questions right now are, should the bleeder screw face up or down? And, how do you bleed a clutch that has a bleeder screw??
  11. Yes that's what I mean. I don't get why they even make it with the tabs. They are almost totally pointless.
  12. That is interesting about your bearing being so much cheaper, was it similar to your old one in construction? Or was it much beefier? Mine was much heavier duty looking but it was closer in cost to Katoom's. I was shock as well when they told me that, but I have had good luck with their warranties in the past so I figured it was worth asking. I am thinking about pulling the white tip off of the slave on the one from them and replacing it with my current one to avoid breaking the straps incase I do need to return it. Although I really don't understand why they even have that. It's not that hard to install the slave without them...
  13. But what I'm confused on is how you move it back without doing the same amount of work as pulling it totally out? I mean you still have to drop both drive shafts, and remove the shift tower, and I would think drop the crossmember? also can you describe what your fork felt like when you moved it by hand? Never mind on this. I was just re reading your post about it on Cummins forum. Mine definitely does not feel how you described yours feeling. on another note, what's your take on the trans tech's theory of a groove on the input shaft retainer? I mean, I think we or the guy that did the trans work would have noticed that, and even if there was something like that, I should have been able to feel it with the old clutch too wouldn't I?
  14. Thanks for the info guys. Katoom, I did use an SKF bearing from Napa, not the one that came with the clutch kit. When you talk about pulling the trans back, I assume you mean not totally removing it. How do you do that while still having room to replace the throwout bearing? Dripley, I am very sure the fork is on correctly. I made sure to match it the way the old one was, but thank you for the suggestion! By the way, I am sorry I seem so stubborn on not wanting to pull the trans. Its not that I don't believe you guys, just hate to have to do that again obviously. Plus I don't have a place to do it. Also, I believe I have a new plan on how to move forward. AutoZone tells me that their warranty is no questions asked, and they will except a return on the hydros if they don't fix my problem! So I will be getting them, bench bleeding them, and hopefully installing them on saturday. Then I'll let you all know how things work out.
  15. I know what you mean and I did read that thread. I just can't believe that we could have missed something that would cause that issue so soon. I mean even yours was after a year and 5000 miles you said. This is like two weeks and 600 miles... Do you think the lack of grease on the face of the fork could be causing it? That's another thing I can't wrap my head around because the area it sits on is so small. There's barely and surface area to grease...and why would that be so dependent on temperature?? It is 100% fine when cold... what would you do, pull the trans or replace hydros?
  16. Thanks for your input Dripley. I have a new update for everyone. I talked to the guys at the trans place today. They weren't able to duplicate the feeling of the pedal that I described so they asked me to come in and drive it for them, which I did. After getting it nice and warm I brought it back and showed them in their parking lot. After that the tech could feel it in the pedal while pressing it by hand. He describes it as a stepping feeling. Anyway he is convinced that it is caused either by a groove or step worn into the input shaft retainer where the bearing slides, or something causing the bearing to cant on the shaft. He thinks it could also be caused by the fact that we did not grease the face of the fork where the bearing sits. He insisted that if he had done the clutch and the customer brought it back and showed him this, his first step would be to pull the trans and check everything. He does not think the hydros would do this. He said if they were free he'd try them first, but since there's no guarantee that Napa isn't going to charge me for a second set he wouldn't waste the money. He didn't seem to think much of what I told him about the slave sticking at first when I tried to compress it by hand. Of course I can't guarantee that wasn't caused by having the cap on the reservoir. What do you guys think? What should my next step be? Replace the hydros and risk it? Or pull the trans? Oh by the way, I also asked him if there would be any negativity consequences to leaving this alone and trying to deal with it. He said that it could wear out the clutch faster if the throw out bearing were to really get hung up on the retainer.
  17. That's awesome dude! The valve cover looks sick! I'd love to get mine done like that.
  18. I just wanted to say how nice and clean your engine bay looks in the first pic! Nice looking truck man!
  19. Hey guys, got a little update and a question for all. My truck has been at the trans shop the last two days waiting on them to look at it. I spook with the manager today and he told me two of his guys drove my truck and were not able to replicate the sticky pedal and he asked when I could come in to drive it with them and try to replicate it. I told him I can on Friday, so he said he would try himself in the meantime. He also mentioned that he is concerned with how high the pedal is when it engages. I had pretty much gotten used to this and excepted that it is just the way it is, but now I'm wondering, where do your pedals start to grab? Especially those of you with stock hydros. I am really starting to wonder if I could have just got a bad set from Napa, particularly the slave. Its so strange how this is so very dependent on the heat soak. By that I mean I don't notice it until the truck is good and hot and I am sitting still or moving slowly at least....Its almost as if the heat causes something in it to swell, plus the fact of how the slave was kind of stuck at first when I tried to move it by hand...
  20. Ok that's kinda what I thought. Thanks! Sounds like I'm going to have the local trans shop feel it and see what they think. $50 for an experienced opinion isn't too bad in my book. That way I can feel confident in what I'm doing before I drop $200 or more on new hydros again.
  21. Here's another idea. Can I step on the clutch with the slave cylinder out of the bell housing? Or will that ruin it?
  22. Well yes you are right about that one. It certainly would be worth the money. I guess my biggest worry is that I don't actually have a problem and that its just somehow part of the break in or something....I think I'm going to give valair a call today and ask them. I'm also going to call the trans place that diagnosed the truck before I replaced the clutch and ask them their opinion and if they can test the hydros, and if they are bad somehow, put that in writing for me incase Napa tries to tell me they are fine and not give my money back.
  23. Well maybe that is the problem then, because it certainly wasn't moving how you describe. I just wonder if it really could be the cause though because the part with more resistance was the part the throw out bearing would never touches on its own due to the constant spring pressure from the slave cylinder....and im not saying it's right, I just can't imagine how it could cause the problem.
  24. No, I'm certain of what I felt, just not sure if what I'm feeling is a problem or not. It's movement is very smooth, just not perfectly consistent toward the rearmost part...Is there anything else I can try before buying new hydros? wouldnt fact of the slave cylinder sticking and being hard to push in at first indicate an issue with it? It's also possible that I was trying to move the fork too far and that's why it was a little harder towards the rear of the truck. I just thought of that because of what you said about the 3/4 inch katoom. I'm pretty sure I moved it more than 3/4.... By the way I'm not trying to disagree with you or doubt your knowledge/experience on this. I'm just trying to verify as much as possible what's going on. And I didn't feel anything that I think could possibly be causing what I'm feeling in the pedal. I guess I really want it to be the hydros, for obvious reasons, but in my opinion, I haven't found anything that really tells me it's the throw out bearing.
  25. The truck was fully warmed and pedal sticky. When I posted the first post tonight I had literally just parked it. Thats why I'm really wondering if the hydros are bad somehow. I did not notice any issues with the fork movement. It wasn't perfectly consistent. By that I mean towards the rear most part of its travel was a little tighter, (more grease there because it wouldn't normally move to that spot by itself I'm thinking), but I did not feel anything that I think could cause my issue.