UDC tuning for vp trucks!!??

[Jbolduc]

Anyone seen this? I think this is huge for the vp trucks

[Mopar1973Man]

I've heard the rumor a long time ago. Still waiting for it to come out.

[Me78569]

I've been watching the pro stuff for awhile now.

 

Interesting to say the least.  Might be worth going with a smarty and larger injectors to make up for the lack of wiretap.

[Jbolduc]

39 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I've heard the rumor a long time ago. Still waiting for it to come out.

Well at least they are still talking about it, and recently since its dated March 16th. 

29 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

I've been watching the pro stuff for awhile now.

 

Interesting to say the least.  Might be worth going with a smarty and larger injectors to make up for the lack of wiretap.

Hell it would make me sell my edge jwa and buy a smarty touch

[CSM]

Want.

[NightHawk]

My guess is it will be a "reduced" version just like Revo is for the vp trucks.  I wouldn't wait as you"ll probably just be disappointed.

[TFaoro]

I'll believe it when I see it. I've had this discussion with Bob Wagner many times and have gotten the same result every time. It would be cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[CSM]

I agree with Tyler.  I would love a UDC, but I doubt it.  

[Mopar1973Man]

5 hours ago, TFaoro said:

I'll believe it when I see it. I've had this discussion with Bob Wagner many times and have gotten the same result every time. It would be cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

6 hours ago, Jbolduc said:

Well at least they are still talking about it, and recently since its dated March 16th. 

Hell it would make me sell my edge jwa and buy a smarty touch

LOL. They been talking about if for 3-4 years now. I gave up waiting for it long time ago.

[Me78569]

I won't be holding my breath, but I can say that smarty has made a huge step towards the "new big thing for vp guys"  before there was no proof that they could do any of that, 

 

However this pro working for the new truck means they have done most of the leg work to make this happen across the board.  look at the last couple months, Smarty touch ( same unit across the board), now this.  It is create they were working towards something.

 

as for how much of the ecm will be unlocked, time will only tell.  

Edited March 21, 2016 by Me78569

[Mopar1973Man]

Big question is will it turn out to be another high dollar price tag for 60-65 HP tuner?

[Me78569]

It will still be limited to 65 hp, but but but if we have the ability to actually custom tune there is no reason to not just run 200 hp injectors and the smarty vs 50 hp injectors and a wiretap.    You should be able to make it more smoke free and better to drive.  

 

Really it all depends on how much tuning is open to us.   Like I said on the phone the pro stuff really looks VERY similar to the stuff Ed was working on.  If that is the case, hopefully, again not holding my breath, we will have access to timing and fueling tables.  

[Mopar1973Man]

(Speaking strictly 24V programmers and tuners here)

$865.00 for Smarty Touch... Still only a 65 HP tuner. Just add a fancy touch screen and gauges.

$649.00 for Smarty Programmer... vStill only a 65 HP tuner.

$559.20 for Edge Comp 120 HP tuner...

$597.81 for Quadzilla Adrenaline (iQuad) 180 HP tuner...

Hmmm... So what would be so great about tuning is it still limted to 65 HP and going to most likely be high in prices vs. modules that produce way more power. Stacking... Just stacking cost too.

Edited March 21, 2016 by Mopar1973Man

[Me78569]

I am not arguing that the hp from the tuner itself is really not impressive, but being able to tune the ecm maps with larger injectors would likely give you the same results as a wire tap, without voiding warranties, smoother power, and less smoke.  

 

Again this all depends %100 on how much the smarty can do for our trucks, if it is just a on the fly of what the smart does right now, then not worth it.    If it opens up the maps like Ed was working on then it would be %100 worth it. 

 

After all of that would it be worth it for the cost to do all of that?  No idea, I am curious without a doubt.  If they can truly on the fly write values to our ecm then that is pretty cool and that opens up a world of things in the future.

[Mopar1973Man]

Maybe... Just that Smarty has had poor fuel to boost ratio control for very long time.

[Me78569]

Not arguing that, but if they give us the tools to change that in the ecm itself then I am listening....

 

 

How about revs?  the ecm is what limits revs. the VP44 can spin at 2400 rpm and still fuel according to bosch, so in theory you could turn over 4800 rpm if the fueling maps in the ecm allowed for it.......

 

pipedream? maybe but I am curious.

Edited March 21, 2016 by Me78569

[notlimah]

This will definitely be worth keeping an eye on that's for sure

[Jbolduc]

I know I'm keeping an eye on it. A guy I know that works at banghart diesel in Nebraska is the one that posted this on Facebook and he says the owner of mads/smarty has a vp truck that has been tuned for years but just hasn't released it 

[Mopar1973Man]

3 minutes ago, Jbolduc said:

he says the owner of mads/smarty has a vp truck that has been tuned for years but just hasn't released it 

Exactly the same story I've heard too. At the same time this came out years ago EFI Live announced they will not produce a EFI Live programmer for the 24V truck because they are just too old. So everyone waited on bated breathe for Smarty to release UDC programmer for the 24V.

Looking at the CR Engine Smarty its impressive tuner.

[Jbolduc]

1 minute ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Exactly the same story I've heard too. At the same time this came out years ago EFI Live announced they will not produce a EFI Live programmer for the 24V truck because they are just too old. So everyone waited on bated breathe for Smarty to release UDC programmer for the 24V.

Looking at the CR Engine Smarty its impressive tuner.

According to the letter on the mads website they are releasing UDC tuning for all years cummins except the 12 valve of course but I guess we continue to wait and see