The Future of Trucks

[Blueox01]

7 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Still ask who is paying for the power? 

https://evcharging.enelx.com/resources/blog/579-the-ultimate-guide-to-electric-vehicle-public-charging-pricing

[Me78569]

 

 

It's coming, the last race the plaid was ~6000#, compared to the 3100# mclaren......that in itself is shocking that it could still win.  

 

I need a plaid.....

Edited September 28, 2021 by Me78569

[Dieselfuture]

I want to say so much but I'll stay right here 

And I'll keep my 2nd gen for now too... 

[Me78569]

Say whatever you like but you have to admit the plaid is stupid fast for a production car.

 

Seeing it reel in a modded hypercar is nutso

Edited September 29, 2021 by Me78569

[Blueox01]

On 9/28/2021 at 4:21 PM, Me78569 said:

 

 

It's coming, the last race the plaid was ~6000#, compared to the 3100# mclaren......that in itself is shocking that it could still win.  

 

I need a plaid.....

We can get the rare earth minerals from Afghanistan to build the batteries , oh wait.........

[PilotHouse2500]

On 5/22/2021 at 8:19 AM, dripley said:

One thing I don't like about the EV's is they don't have to pay any road taxes, but that will change when they catch on.  After all we  all use the same roads. Got to maintain them.

Not to mention how heavy they are and hard on the road.....it seems here in MN they might finally be getting around to some sort of tax for EV's....but likely will also double dip by applying the millage tax to ICE as well (as you still pay gas tax).

[Me78569]

1 hour ago, PilotHouse2500 said:

Not to mention how heavy they are and hard on the road.....it seems here in MN they might finally be getting around to some sort of tax for EV's....but likely will also double dip by applying the millage tax to ICE as well (as you still pay gas tax).

 

 

Not sure I follow on this one? 

 

The awd model 3 with long range batteries is right at 4,000#   A upper model legacy is over 3700# and a buick envision over 3900#     

 

 

curious to see more information on road damage of EV vs ICE.

 

 

 

They need to figure out taxes for EV without a doubt, roads are not going to get any better with less money due to less fuel being bought.

[PilotHouse2500]

On 10/12/2021 at 10:50 AM, Me78569 said:

 

 

Not sure I follow on this one? 

 

The awd model 3 with long range batteries is right at 4,000#   A upper model legacy is over 3700# and a buick envision over 3900#     

 

 

curious to see more information on road damage of EV vs ICE.

 

 

 

They need to figure out taxes for EV without a doubt, roads are not going to get any better with less money due to less fuel being bought.

 

granted its CNN....but mass is mass

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/business/electric-vehicles-weight/index.html

 

[Me78569]

Thanks I will give it a read.  Mass is mass

[Mopar1973Man]

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Take the GMC Hummer EV, for instance. The Edition 1 version, which has lots of batteries for additional driving range and power, weighs over 9,000 pounds. That's roughly three times the weight of a Honda Civic.

 

Heck I just scaled Thor on Monday it scaled out at 8,800 pound with all my tools and toolboxes. At least Thor is carrying the weight of tools and stuff that allows me to do my job. Now a 9,000 pound Hummer that can't really haul anything thing because of its mass and weight more you drop in of cargo the less the batteries are going hold up and shorten its travel time just like more weight I put in Thor the more its going to reduce MPG. Mass is Mass... This why I'm glad I got my trans back for Beast and going to go back to my ECO-Diesel. Beast is mere 7,300 pounds and ranging 24 to 28 MPG now. 

 

 

[Me78569]

that ev hummer is a pig, there is no need for it to be 9000#   its a dumb vehicle just like the H2 and h3 were dumb.    comparing the hummer ev to a work truck is like comparing a kia to a rally car.  

 

Looks like on average the ev's model to model vs the ice at ~%10-%20 heavier.  i would have to think that is from the battery.  Curb weight in an ICE does not include fuel so that can alter the difference depending on size of tank etc, but as battery density increases we will see those weight numbers drop.

 

on average battery density appears to be increasing at %5-%8 a year.  however the push and $$ put towards increasing battery density is rapidly growning so we will have to see where that leads.   

 

it's coming..