Possible Game Changer for lighting our trucks $211

[AH64ID]

13 hours ago, Evan said:

You guys are older than dirt must be 30years ago but seems like yesterday. 

 

Yes negatives are normal but not -20s

 

 

I know 2020 feels like it's lasting forever, but January of 2017 is just shy of 4 years ago...not 30 

[Evan]

Anyone running these yet

 

 

I helped put a set of led bulbs and housings on a suburban yesterday. Company called top gear or something. 

 

All parts very low quality cost was 274

 

Are the lenses low quality from rock auto

[Mopar1973Man]

Not the lens but the reflector. Hence why I bailed out of using any reflector type lighting being HID is based on the lens. LED bulbs like in my 96 the pattern is poor to OK because the reflector is what make the pattern.

[Evan]

What is overall lens quality.  Who makes en?

[LorenS]

Anzo USA 111067

I used those to install my projectors. Very happy with the lense after over 25k miles.

[dripley]

RA uses a lot different suppliers for head lights. I got the set I have on amazon along with some different brand bulbs and they worked pretty good. Cleat lenses with just a rear reflector. Light stays on the road and not in the trees.

[Mopar1973Man]

Lens is NOT the problem its the reflector. I've got a set of head light housing from Amazon clear lens but the reflector suxs for pattern. Now no matter what you do with housing and bulbs most of it is going to be crappy patterned hotspot on the highway and never be all that great. Like even on my 1996 Dodge I've got new housing and new LED bulbs they are bright but the pattern suxs. Great hotspot in the middle of the highway lane  but no light to the edge of the road at all. If a deer jump up out of the ditch I'd never see it. 

 

 

HID's whole new world. The light is evenly cast over the full width of the highway plus another 20 to 30 feet pass the fog lines on both sides. The lens is what makes this all possible. I'm not using any huge bulbs either just the standard 4,000 lumen 5k bulb. On high beam I can light the top of pine tree that is 50 foot tall.

 

Like I said you can play with housing and bulbs till the cows come home but you'll never come close to HID's quality of any sort. I've tried every from sport headlights with the relay mod, new headlight housing and LED bulbs. the HID's... Just no way to do cheap lighting....

 

Lo Beam HIDs, and PIAA LEDs on as well. Great cutoff and never in on coming eyes. Still a good reach without being to high in peoples eyes. 

 

Hi beam on the HID's being it was a short distance to the back drop it doesn't look too tall but out on the open road and looking out in the distance you can clearly see the tops of trees at 50 feet tall. You can see all the way to the curve...

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by Mopar1973Man

[Evan]

Im not talking light performance.

 

Are these cheap 100dollar lenses something trash can worthy out of the box like the ones I just helped install.

[dripley]

I used this.

It just has the rear reflector and projects the light mostly forward. They light the side of the road about as well as the oe housings with halogen bulb. The adjusting screws are held in place with a clip very much like the oe but pretty thin. They have held where I set them but seem cheap. So I dont they they are just trash can fodder but only couple steps ahead of that. I did this just experient and it came out pretty good. One other thing I kept reading about was the loaction of the light chip in the bulb and that you would have better performance if said chip was in the same location as the filament in a halogen bulb. But I have only tried the one led set in them. So how true that is I dont know.

[Evan]

The chip is forward is that what you mean by same as halogen bulb?

 

Thank you for tge reply.

 

Im very leary to by housings now after seeing how cheap and flimsy the chevy aftermarket stuff we installed was 

 

[dripley]

1 hour ago, Evan said:

The chip is forward is that what you mean by same as halogen bulb?

By what I read if you were to hold a halogen bulb next to the led bulb with the bases even, where the bases fit into the housing, that the led chip should be at the same distance as the filament in the halogen from the base. Once I installed mine into the housing and liked what I saw I never took it out to compare. So needless to say the above info was found after I installed mine and I am to lazy to take them out and see if they are close. Now these lights are not a big game changer. Right now mine reach about the same as the halogens but light is brighter. I have had them aimed higher with good results but they seemed to me to be to high for on coming traffic. No one flipped their high beams at me but I dont think anyone knows how to do that anymore.  I based my adjustments on how the beams hit a vehicle in front of me, as in did I light there passenger compartment up at a stop light or not.

 

The LED's I used were LASFIT LC6 9004. Plug and play. At $35 for the pair. I was into the whole deal for less than $150.

[Evan]

Ok gotcha. 

 

Why do we keep messing with these damn old dinosaurs 

[Mopar1973Man]

5 hours ago, Evan said:

Ok gotcha. 

 

Why do we keep messing with these damn old dinosaurs 

 

Because these old dinosaurs are easier to work on than the new trucks and parts are cheaper. CR engine for a set of injectors right about $2,100 for stock injectors. I can buy a VP44 for half that price. Then injectors for us are quarter that price. Why do we want to pay for new technology that cost more to fix? I know I'm hypocrite now being I also own a 2006 Dodge ram now too and plan on dropping that same $2,100 on injectors too. Being I bought it cheap I could fix it up and use it for a time and them trade for something else I find. 

[Evan]

Injectors cost more but I wouldn't say 2006 is any real bump into modern. Computers are alittle more advanced still old school

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Still expensive... Ugh. At least the ECM/PCM combo is gone and only a single ECM.

[Evan]

Just change one injector at a time.

[Evan]

So ive now blown my spare bulb.

 

Heres a photo of 2stroke 3.0 from a tundra forumn.

 

 

 

I am thinkkng ill order bulbs but not lenses ill clean my lenses again as I research what might be a quality replacement 

 

 

I've spent the money on the 2stroke 3.0 175bucks. Now that I've spent the money I've done alot of research.

Seems hid vs led is a confusing subject alot jumpers into one wagon or the other. Lots of good information but im not sure ive read what is actually better

 

Been running around with my high beams.

 

Looking forward to having better than stock light.

Edited February 7, 2021 by Evan

[Evan]

Ok there in. I like though my paxxenger housing is broken cant adjust up.

 

Beam pattern similar to the Silverstone appears to be noticably more light.  No stray light hitting tops if trees like my jeep led

 

Edited February 9, 2021 by Evan

[dripley]

Is that in the oe style lens? What bulb did you use?

[Evan]

Whatever lens came on 2002 trucks.

2stroke 3.0

 

Im researching what lens for these bulbs. No idea really