Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
Changed the title for SEO reasons

nutso.  

 

I thought the pigtail normally came with the sensor.

6 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

nutso.  

 

I thought the pigtail normally came with the sensor.

My local Cummins dealer is useless, most of time I tell them what I found out and then they can help. When i got my sensor few months back that's all they gave me, never even mentioned this adapter. No I called them and said I need an adapter, they had no clue, I told them what I knew and the guy called me back and said yeap found what you need. End of conversation. Then it was basicly you want it or not, can have it next day for only $30 in freight, or wait till cows come home, and we'll call you. So Genos it was.  

crazy. 

 

 

Well hopefully that resolves your issue, I think it will.  

My local Cummins charged me $15 to have a front main "shipped" from Denver to Pueblo. That's like 120 miles, and I know they have daily shipments between the stores. What a pain

2 hours ago, Me78569 said:

Yellow turbo is the turbo timer.  If it is yellow you know the feature is enabled.

 

Need to change the color of the icon to green or something other than yellow. Yellow tend to pop to mind to being warning message. Where green is just a notification. Danger icon should be in red.

Edited November 15, 20168 yr by Mopar1973Man

Out of my control.  Doubt it will make the cut as it is not high priority compared to the driver signing issue.

The pigtail was offered when I bought. Problem is I dont remember who I got it from. Ordered them together though.

New flash with HUGELY improved wiretap fueling smoothness.  I am unable to feel when wiretap comes on now, also transition smoke is gone.  No more uncontrollable puff of smoke when the psi is reached.  

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/up9aaaxccu9twph/ADR1000V2.exe?dl=0

 

Thing to note is the changes to the tuning variables for 

 

Low pump limit psi and low pump %

 

Low limit controls the same function but is changed in how it works. It is still where wiretap fueling starts.  change is how the fueling is calculated to improve smoothness

 

 

Low Pump % is now to set the low limit for the lowest % of wiretap you want once the above is reached.  Most if not all DD tunes should have this set to below %5.  Above that should be race only.  

 

documents have been updated to reflect the change.

Edited November 16, 20168 yr by Me78569

11 hours ago, Me78569 said:

New flash with HUGELY improved wiretap fueling smoothness.  I am unable to feel when wiretap comes on now, also transition smoke is gone.  No more uncontrollable puff of smoke when the psi is reached.  

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bczqy1dl92h9x56/ADR1000V2.exe?dl=0

 

Thing to note is the changes to the tuning variables for 

 

Low pump limit psi and low pump %

 

Low limit controls the same function but is changed in how it works. It is still where wiretap fueling starts.  change is how the fueling is calculated to improve smoothness

 

 

Low Pump % is now to set the low limit for the lowest % of wiretap you want once the above is reached.  Most if not all DD tunes should have this set to below %5.  Above that should be race only.  

 

documents have been updated to reflect the change.

 

This is a huge update for anyone that wants it to be smooth! Even with my fat injectors I have no puff of smoke when wiretap starts fueling. Honestly you can't even tell other than it smashes you back in your seat. I would highly recommend everyone running V2 download this new one. 

Here's the update showing how the transition is between canbus fuleing and wiretap

 

 

Another run high throttle snap, tc locked low revs

 

 

Fuel stretch on both of these runs was set at 1700

Tyler and I were talking about oem timing.   Figured I should do some more data logging of what the ECM is doing in terms of timing.   

 

These show purely oem timing with no quad fueling or timing adjustments.

 

 

It appears that RPM play the greatest role in terms of timing, boost does, but not nearly to the degree that rpm does.

 

 

 

IF you want to download the datalogs they are attached.

iQuad-2016-11-18-07.31.031496951642.csv

iQuad-2016-11-18-07.35.531190242772.csv

iQuad-2016-11-18-07.32.481566824965.csv

Edited November 18, 20168 yr by Me78569

Let me do a little logging for you on the OEM timing.  I'm seeing similar results but I believe my timing is almost a degree higher.

Just pulled a horse trailer at 65, netted 17.7 mpg. Pretty happy.

@Me78569, would it make sense to start a thread just with the flash updates and downloads? I almost missed that one

It's pinned at the top of the section

 

Maybe I should rename it. lol

Edited November 19, 20168 yr by Me78569

I enjoy reading this even though I still get lost trying to figure it out. I am sure that by the time I get my quad thier should be some nice copy and paste tunes for my needs.

@Me78569, Can you please post the excel db file you use to display the Iquad csv files in the graphs? I cannot get it to work.

I posted the CSV above.   That's all I used.

1 hour ago, Me78569 said:

I posted the CSV above.   That's all I used.

When I open them in excel it just populates the cells Macros?

5 hours ago, Me78569 said:

I posted the CSV above.   That's all I used.

I think he wants you to post the edited excel sheet where you made graphs. Just a guess though.....