Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
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only if boost input is below 10psi and tps is above your tps pump max setting.  

 

I don't know if I that section of code or not, but I guess I can see how it might be "handy" for a stock injector truck. or maybe a truck with a bad map sensor?  I dunno.

 

I always recommend tps pump max being set at 100% though.  

Agreed, just curious as I had mine at 99 while on the dyno. So much fuel  Glad I couldn't see the stack coming out of the shop. 

yep if you had it set to 99 and you went WOT without psi being at 10 it would have set your PSI at 10.   that must have felt like the truck was going to wrap itself around you.

14 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

yep if you had it set to 99 and you went WOT without psi being at 10 it would have set your PSI at 10.   that must have felt like the truck was going to wrap itself around you.

That's only 150% can-bus plus another 40% of 1800us pulse. 

Made it spool nicely though...

 

So is there a good starting point for empty cruising around 60 mph or so for good mpg. I got older quad with v2 pulse monitor that I can adjust things with. I believe the tune on it, is whatever came with it, maybe comp 1000, and I can save two other custom tunes on there. Never really played with it too much. I've been just experimenting with stock tune and different levels. So far it seems that level 3 is where it's at, right around 19.5-20 mpg mostly 55-60 mph and some 65. level 1 as quad says max mileage is not really all that, I think I got 20.5 mpg on that one but I think I drove mostly 55, so I could of done that with level 3.

So question is for us with older quad, what's a good place to start for making a custom tune to get 25mpg at 55mph. Basically if I go custom tuning what do I need to set things at to get in a ball park. I'm sure other will love to know this also. Thank you. 

Older quad tunes,

 

keep the quad turned up to max level, keep tps pump min at %20 and set timing at 8* with 100% scaling.   

Quote

lvls: whatever

timing max: 8

timing scaling: 100

tps can max: 100

tps can min: 0

tps pump max: 100

tps pump min: 20

boost scaling: 40

fuel stretch:` 1800

 

Most importantly keep the quad turned up.  old quad tunes scaled the timing based on levels so if you run on lvl 3 you might only be cruising at 17-18* of timing

Are older quad modules able to run the new v2 software? 

yes,

 

Just flash the beta tune and update your vehicle on the iquad app to the beta stuff.

Thank you!

1 hour ago, Me78569 said:

Older quad tunes,

 

keep the quad turned up to max level, keep tps pump min at %20 and set timing at 8* with 100% scaling.   

 

Most importantly keep the quad turned up.  old quad tunes scaled the timing based on levels so if you run on lvl 3 you might only be cruising at 17-18* of timing

Is there a reason to keep the older tunes if you can update to the new beta v2?

5 hours ago, leathermaneod said:

Thank you!

Is there a reason to keep the older tunes if you can update to the new beta v2?

Nope, you can always switch it back if you like. 

Here's another question, are the quad boxes different based on map sensor/year or are they all the same and useable with an adapter?

8 minutes ago, leathermaneod said:

Here's another question, are the quad boxes different based on map sensor/year or are they all the same and useable with an adapter?

They have a little "jumper" on the circuit board that is easily removed by anyone, so basically the boxes work for all years if you have the jumper. 

Without the jumper they are plug and play for 98-00

With the jumper they are plug and play for 01-02

On 10/30/2016 at 5:55 PM, Silverdodge said:

The p pump pull truck at 1k hp I helped dial in is running 32 ish on a 24v motor so 

 

What rpm range does it pull at?

2 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

They have a little "jumper" on the circuit board that is easily removed by anyone, so basically the boxes work for all years if you have the jumper. 

Without the jumper they are plug and play for 98-00

With the jumper they are plug and play for 01-02

What about the difference in map sensor plug shape?

2 minutes ago, AH64ID said:

 

What rpm range does it pull at?

i think he launches at 4500 ish and let's it rev from there if I remember correctly haven't talked to him since spring but I remember thinking that's a lot of timing 

3 minutes ago, leathermaneod said:

What about the difference in map sensor plug shape?

Those are different.

98-00 = same

01 has its own

02 has its own

 

It's a small little adapter on the harness though that's $50 or so from @dieselautopower

4 minutes ago, Silverdodge said:

i think he launches at 4500 ish and let's it rev from there if I remember correctly haven't talked to him since spring but I remember thinking that's a lot of timing 

 

Thats why. 32° at 4500 is a whole lot different that 32° at 2500. 

55 minutes ago, AH64ID said:

 

Thats why. 32° at 4500 is a whole lot different that 32° at 2500. 

But it's p pump has no dynamic timing correct just static

which is why he needs to launch that high.  The engine would run like garbage on the street with static timing set at 32*.   32* at 2500 is signficantly more timing, compared to piston vs TDC than at 4500 rpm.  Remember the faster the motor turns to more timing you need to get detonation at the same point compared to TDC. 

Edited November 1, 20168 yr by Me78569

That makes more sense to me thank u Nick for clearing that up