Has anyone seen the Nasa video of the Ice sheet melting since 1984 in Antartica? It's really dwindling down. Some years showing significant sudden change. Folks I talked to moving out of California say even the cool fogs don't roll in from the coast causing forests to start dying. They say you can see dead trees all along the Santa Cruz Highway. I saw significant numbers of dead dying trees along I-5 around Mt. Shasta and that area always has been greener than any place on earth. Anyhow when you see the Nasa Video you'll know it's not just drought. Maybe someone could put up a link... it's on CNN.

 

Pray we get a cold winter/ Loads of snow in the mountains.

Part of that whole theory idea I have read is this isnt the first time a "global warming" took effect on the earth. A few thousand years before the last ice age the planet supposedly heated up a significant amount and then plunged straight into the ice age. A lot of people believe that the planet is just getting ready for another ice age and cleansing of its surface.

 

As for fossil fuels I do believe we have to get away from them. Maybe not in our lifetime but someday we will run out of fossil fuels. Then where will we be? No gas, plastic, coal, anything. We better get our act together on that one.

 

On a different note, I strongly feel we need to bring back some of the logging and other material producing industries to the states. A lot of that is very renewable resource material that we arent taking advantage of. Most of the original industry here in the state of Montana is now gone with the government and EPA restrictions. Little to no mining and very little logging is left going on anywhere up here. With the technologies we have today we should be able to produce materials in a safe and clean manner IMHO.

 

Just a few thoughts from MT.

I do have to say that Montana has, by far, the best national forest health I have seen recently.  You guys still have a ton of logging going on and I can see the perk to it.  

 

It may seem like logging has gone down, but compared to here....wow.  

Just set a new record high here @ 78 yesterday. Some of the wifes friends were wake boarding on the Missouri in Bismarck area today too but was only mid 60's today and windy they are more hard core and younger than i am and all had full wet suits on too, Florida here we come in a few......

Today I was actually doing a final mowing of the mother in laws farm yard before doing the end of season service and maintenance on the mower so its ready to fire and go next year. Worked on my kubota engine swap project for a couple hours this morning in a tee shirt, Awesome for first week of November and all this coming week still highs of about 60+-.

Edited November 7, 20168 yr by Wild and Free

Would of been nice to have that warmth down here. I was not anywhere near that warm in Boise when I left today.

According to this some of us need to be prepared for something harsh. Here on the Northern plains we are pretty much always prepared, just a way of life for us.

https://weather.com/news/weather/news/snow-siberia-russia-united-states-cold

So Russia is going to make it cold and snowy this winter? I say bring it on!

43 minutes ago, Buzzinhalfdozen said:

So Russia is going to make it cold and snowy this winter? I say bring it on!

 

I agree... Idaho has had mild winters for years it would be awesome to see a nice deep snow year and less of the bitter cold like in the past years where it doesn't snow much.

9 hours ago, Wild and Free said:

just a way of life for us.

 

 This is why I moved from New England in '74.

 

Edited November 8, 20168 yr by IBMobile

9 hours ago, Wild and Free said:

 just a way of life for us.

 

 

"How cold it is?" -40 Below...doesn't matter what side of the river you live on.

Have not seen -40 in my area for many years probably 90's. 20-30ish is the yearly norm but the last 2 years i think -20 for a few days was the most.

I can remember a spell in the 80's where we did not get above 0 for about 6 weeks.

-40 is still a yearly normal back home.  I remember having a total of 1 day off from school due to weather.  It was -49*f before windchill I think -56*f with the wind haha.  

 

Needless to say I didn't play outside that day.....  I am sure had they been able to start the school buses we would have went school still haha.

I sure hope Colorado gets some snow this year. Snowmobiling has been pathetic. 

 

Coldest I've been in is -34F. It was funny because my dad's old 12v fired right up without an issue. The 2 polaris snowmobiles on the other hand refused to fire (2 ski-doo sleds started fine.) It took using a butane torch on the cylinder walls to get em fired up. 

shoulda went artic cat ..... I know nothing about snowmobiles anymore hahahha

 

I am starting to get a little worried about winter, been mid 60's in november.....  MUST HAVE WINTER.

Edited November 8, 20168 yr by Me78569

I bet it's coming, with fury.  

I really hope so, I would rather have it -20 than 90 above

30 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

shoulda went artic cat ..... I know nothing about snowmobiles anymore hahahha

 

I am starting to get a little worried about winter, been mid 60's in november.....  MUST HAVE WINTER.

They're so far behind the game now   Polaris and Ski-Doo are dominating the market.

 

22 minutes ago, CSM said:

I bet it's coming, with fury.  

I hope so. I was made for winter!

9 hours ago, TFaoro said:

They're so far behind the game now   Polaris and Ski-Doo are dominating the market.

 

I hope so. I was made for winter!

I used to be a hard core Ski Doo/ Sea Doo man, gotta love the Rotax power plants. Have not owned or ridden a sled for 18 years or a PWC for about 9 years since upgrading to a pontoon in 07. Still got out on some friends PWC every year yet though.

 

I used to think I was made for winter when I was younger and then fat and out of shape but now that I am 80+ lbs lighter and older I hate winter more and more every year and we have not had a real winter for 3 years.

I used to be a big Artic Cat fan. When all my sled friends left the area I gave away my sled to a friend and never looked back. It needed work being the oil pump cable broke I rode quite a distance without knowing that it happened.