Posted September 24, 201410 yr Is there a known brand of alternator that produces low ac current for our trucks?
September 24, 201410 yr NAPA seems decent. Or go to a local rebuilder & explain what you want. Anyone who does not require a core is selling you Chinese junk. Ed
September 24, 201410 yr Author I had a local shop rebuild it a few months ago and worked fine put out 0.1v ac. Now I'm back with converter lock/unlock and 0.3v ac
September 24, 201410 yr Author I'll try talking to them but I'm not sure they get it. I explained what I needed and even showed them with my DVM but they had that blank stare. I've tried to explain to several people even let them read Mikes article but they just can't seem to grasp the concept. Everyone says oh you need an APPS sensor or APPS reset. It gets frustrating.
September 24, 201410 yr Author Joecool911 your planned mod of NV4500 swap sounds real good right about now. I've about had it with the 47re.
September 24, 201410 yr Keep in mind that the AC noise doesn't just effect the transmission. It is also harmful to the other computers like the ECM and PCM. Both auto and manual trucks really shouldn't be exposed to excessive AC noise at all. It is just a lot more noticeable in the auto trucks I think.
September 24, 201410 yr they probably rebuilt it with inferior parts.. sorry to say. It's getting really tuff to find oem kits to rebuild starters or alternators. Mexican components such as these, or light switches sure look good, but have less than half the life of original stuff. I swear, going to a u-pull-it salvage yard is going to find better electronics than the stuff on the shelf these days. Unfortunately, you take the sole chance the dang thing is burnt out in the first place..
September 24, 201410 yr Staff I go to the u-pull-it yards all the time. The problem; is the vehicle you need there, is the part you want still on the vehicle, and is the part better than you have at home. You can spend a lot of time and get nothing or score big. What I've found is the starter motors and alternators have all ready been replaced and most of the time you don't know who rebuilt it.
September 24, 201410 yr Keep in mind that the AC noise doesn't just effect the transmission. It is also harmful to the other computers like the ECM and PCM. Both auto and manual trucks really shouldn't be exposed to excessive AC noise at all. It is just a lot more noticeable in the auto trucks I think. Don't forget about the PSG! I don't think it likes AC either.... As mike has said, that may be a major contributor to VP failures
September 25, 201410 yr I'll take Mexican parts over Chinese any day !!!!!! Yeah, I really said that. Ed
September 25, 201410 yr I'll take Mexican parts over Chinese any day !!!!!! Yeah, I really said that. Ed you mean..... there is even lower grade stuff out there?? geeezzz I gotta really start watching the boxes! but dang it, I'd LOVE to buy USA!! It's soooooo hard to find anymore!
September 25, 201410 yr Staff I just go for new only and think that the Nippon Denso Alternators are best. changed mine over to a new ND and the AC voltage/ noise is very low. I never go for rebuilt as I can save more time not exchanging rebuilt alternators. Plus a book I have explains all the shenanigans that rebuilders try to pull with their tactics. There are many shortcuts they can take in the process. Edited September 25, 201410 yr by JAG1
September 25, 201410 yr Best altenator on the market hands down. These are big in the wheelin and rock crawlin scene. http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com//p-6964-mean-green-high-output-alternator-220-amp-dodge-59l-cummins.aspx?gclid=CjwKEAjw-o6hBRDOmsPSjqakuzYSJADR2V3SApKHfU75-hqL_3BUpFw8Y-pbXHUTLgI3vhVOqqic9RoC6Rnw_wcB
September 26, 201410 yr Owner Mine I've got a NAPA reman alternator on my truck had it tested at the store before I even paid for it. It tested out 0.01 to 0.02 AC volts. I was happy and paid the bill and left. All you got to do is require to have them bench test it for diode performance. If you want you could have it test with a digital meter too as its being spun. As for the Mean Green you have to consider re-wiring the charge lead and also getting a 220-230 amp fuse to change out the OE fuse. For daily driver its just way too much rebuilding to just get a low AC noise alternator.
September 26, 201410 yr Author Mine I've got a NAPA reman alternator on my truck had it tested at the store before I even paid for it. It tested out 0.01 to 0.02 AC volts. I was happy and paid the bill and left. All you got to do is require to have them bench test it for diode performance. If you want you could have it test with a digital meter too as its being spun. As for the Mean Green you have to consider re-wiring the charge lead and also getting a 220-230 amp fuse to change out the OE fuse. For daily driver its just way too much rebuilding to just get a low AC noise alternator. Mike, I can't afford the mean green anyway. I ordered a new one from the alternator shop today and should be here tomorrow. I asked if I could check it with my multimeter on the bench and he said sure but it wouldn't show anything because the voltage regulator wouldn't be hooked up through the truck. Shouldn't just spinning the alternator and checking the ac output work?
September 26, 201410 yr The shop should have some sort of testing facilities. If they can't test them after a rebuild I would go somewhere else.
September 26, 201410 yr Author Mike I cleaned grounds again yesterday and test drove. No symptoms now. I just checked the alternator per your video exactly. My meter is reading 0.02-0.03 back and forth. Is this too high? I went to Napa and had them bench test a brand new alternator and it was putting out 0.03 to 0.04 so I didn't buy it. I've been driving the truck all morning still with no symptoms. Do you think I should continue my search for a new alternator? I went ahead and had them order a reman for me just in case that will be here around lunch.
September 26, 201410 yr Author Mike I cleaned grounds again yesterday and test drove. No symptoms now. I just checked the alternator per your video exactly. My meter is reading 0.02-0.03 back and forth. Is this too high? I went to Napa and had them bench test a brand new alternator and it was putting out 0.03 to 0.04 so I didn't buy it. I've been driving the truck all morning still with no symptoms. Do you think I should continue my search for a new alternator? I went ahead and had them order a reman for me just in case that will be here around lunch. Another thing is I'm using a decent DVM but it is not a Fluke True RMS meter. What are the chances that my meter could be slightly off?
Is there a known brand of alternator that produces low ac current for our trucks?