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@Mopar1973Man , maybe you can assist here. Please review this thread and give us your thoughts. Symptoms are: engine idles fine, or jumps to 1,400 rpm when the throttle is slowly pressed. Engine rpm doesn't change while depressing throttle further. Engine has the following DTC's: P 1693 is a companion code - no concern. P0122 - Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor Signal Voltage Too Low P1689 - No Communication Between ECM & Injection Pump Module ECM and PCM has been checked by Auto Computer Specialists. Scanner show that APPS signal is 0% at idle and ramps smoothly through the throttle application range. @CH123 , please make any corrections if I misstated something. John

Hope this helps for battery wire sizes. John

I watched your video - good video. I noticed that as you depressed the accelerator pedal that the accelerator pedal traveled a more than normal distance to get a change in engine rpm, and that the change was sudden (jumped to 1,400 rpm). The idle validation switch is built into the APPS sensor. It appears to be working as the engine idles as it should. Do you have, or have access to a scanner that can read the APPS signal? If so, this could help diagnose whether or not the per cent of APPS signal follows the travel of the accelerator pedal. It could also show an abrupt signal change that times with the sudden rpm change when depressing the throttle. This test could help to determine if the APPS sensor should be replaced. APPS / ECM circuit is shown below: John

The ECM controls engine idle - all other sensors (including the APPS) are out of the loop when the engine is idling. However, you do need to make sure that the APPS is adjusted properly and that the idle validation switch is energized in order for the ECM to command engine idle. Since you have a code for the APPS (signal voltage too low), I would address this circuit first. John

If you clear the codes, do they come right back? If so, which ones? P 1693 is a companion code - no concern. P0122 - Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor Signal Voltage Too Low P1689 - No Communication Between ECM & Injection Pump Module P1689 - not good. John

No need to insulate lines. The AC system on these truck cool very adequately. Likely, there is something not right with your system. If you install the heater core shutoff valves and the the AC works much better, then you probably have a blend door problem - either with door seal leakage or the blend door is not operating to its full travel limits, thus some of the circulating air is still being passed through the heater core. I have a heater core shutoff valve that I use in the hottest part of the summer. The difference is really unnoticeable when the truck is parked inside and used for the first time on a hot day. However, after being parked in the sun for a couple of hours or more, there is a faster cool down because the heater core has not heat soaked the dash, and when engine is started, there is no hot coolant entering the heater core to conduct into the cabin. This is when there seems to be the best benefit to using a heater core shutoff valve. John

Sounds like a good plan. Thanks for the informative response - good information. John

Glad to hear that you didn't have the battery connected during the tests. I am referring back to your original post as a starting point. Has anyone checked for codes? If so, what are they? If codes have been checked and there are no codes, there are other things to be checked off the list, such as: Did you fuel the truck just before this incident occurred? (possible water contamination or wrong fuel) Have you verified lift pump pressure? Is the lift pump running? The lift pump should run for 1/4 second with key in Run position. Switch key to Off position and then to Bump Starter position (don't start the engine) and let the key return to Run position. You should hear the lift pump run for about 20 seconds. Be sure to always turn the key to the Off position before repeating a test. Check over the positive and negative battery cables and connections carefully. Don't forget the crossover cable. Use your 99 wiring diagram to find and check grounds - especially for the ECM, PCM, PDC and the VP44. This will be a good start. Let me know what you find. John

I am kind of at a standstill here as I don't know what you are trying to accomplish with your tests on Joint Connector #8. Plus, it appears that you are testing for resistance (ohms), but you are breaking all of the rules mentioned in my previous post, such as leaving everything connected and supplying external power). This is from your original post. A previous post by me explained why this would be normal to have continuity through both the door switch and through the ignition switch under these conditions. This is the next part of the same paragraph from your original post. I am thinking there is no faulty short to track down. So, my question is - why are you focused on these particular wires? And, what are you testing for? Hopefully, we can get this part resolved and move on to the real issue - lack of engine power. John

I appreciate your explanation. The "diode check" function is used for checking alternator diodes. The meter itself applies a specific voltage value to the diode being tested in the free-flow direction. The meter displays that value in voltage - example: .650 volts for a good diode. Reverse the polarity and the meter would read OL (out of voltage limit). Also, it is worth noting that at least one end of the diode is removed from the circuit during the test, otherwise an erroneous reading or damage to the meter (if external power is supplied) may result. Since you were using your meter's diode test function under various uncontrolled conditions (batteries disconnected, batteries connected, engine running, etc.), you were likely collecting many erroneous readings and also you risked damaging your multimeter. The "resistance" test (Ohms) is used for checking continuity in wiring. The meter applies a specific voltage (similar to the "diode check") and measures the resistance of the circuit being tested. The meter displays the resulting value in Ohms. As in diode testing (and for the same reasons), the wire being tested must have at least one end removed from the circuit being tested and have NO external power applied. Don't rely on the meter's "tone sound" for testing results. Look at the display and note the actual ohm reading. There are three tests that can be performed. One test will check the continuity of wire (should be almost zero ohms). Another test will check for continuity of the wire to a good ground source - a short circuit - (should be OL). The last test will check for continuity of the wire to any adjacent wire of your choice - a short circuit - (should be OL). Prior to performing any continuity testing, always do the following: Set the meter to the lowest ohms scale - do not use the Kilo-ohms or Mega-ohms scale. Do not use auto scaling. Touch and hold your test leads together to prove that the meter and your test leads are performing properly. A reading of zero or near zero ohms is expected. So, hopefully you will re-think how you do your future continuity testing. If you still believe that you have a short-to-ground issue, then be deliberate and test circuits that are relevant to prove whether or not the particular circuit is functioning properly. I'll be happy to help you through that. John

I can't answer that question as I don't know the purpose of that connector, or what you were trying to figure out with the method of testing you performed. If you don't know what is on either end of the connector, then any values from electrical tests performed are meaningless. Please answer this question - why do you think you have a short to ground in the wiring on your truck? What is drawing you to this conclusion? You may have a valid reason - I am just not getting it. Also, why are you using the "diode check" function on your meter to check for ground continuity (or shorts to ground) instead of using the resistance / ohms function? If you can clear some of this up, then we can move on to trying to figure out the "no power" situation. John

Your meter is set to "diode check" which means that current will flow only one way after it overcomes .6 volt. Current will not flow in the other direction. The continuity will be there with the ignition switch turned on for the same reason the continuity was there when the door was open. All it takes is one circuit to be activated with the ignition switch on to make continuity - for example, instrument panel indicator lamps. This would be normal. Am I missing something here? Why do you think you have a short to ground problem? John

Before I can offer any help, I have some questions first. Was your meter on the continuity (ohms) setting? Were the batteries connected or disconnected? If the meter was set for continuity (ohms) and the batteries were disconnected, then it would be normal to have continuity between the positive cable and the ground cable when the door switch was activated. The current would be passing through the dome light and through the switch. If the above paragraph doesn't represent what you observed, pleas let me know. Can you provide more detail as to why you think you have a ground problem John

I don't think your truck is burning up crank sensors, I think that the after-market crank sensors are of low quality. Many others have reported the same issue with after-market crank sensors. Good to hear that your are making headway, though. John

I have done the same. Can't remember the details, but I think you have to slide the seat bottom to certain positions to access four bolts (or nuts), but it is an easy task. John