Did injectors and valve adjustment

[TFaoro]

1 hour ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Bigger the injectors the more you drop to lower sublevels to control smoke. Like my +50HP require sublevel 3 to be smoke free. Someone like TFaoro would be more like a sublevel 2 because of running larger injectors. I will use Sublevel 1 in the dead of winter to keep traction on slick roads. Keeps the turbo from lighting up and getting squirrelly.

I've been cruising around on STOCK fueling (only a timing increase)... no need for any more power when DDing. Still pulls harder than it used to with my previous turbo/injector setup.

1 hour ago, Me78569 said:

lag, whats that?

 

  No lag is awesome!

56 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

I am really trying to find someone to let me do a twin VGT setup hahaha  If I only had a triple disc and billet input, and a spare truck that I could rip the axles out of.

 

he351ve  and a he551ve   Buckle up spanky............

You buy the parts and I'm down   Let's see how much this trans can hold!

 

Tom... Was I right about this forum!?  

[Me78569]

Tom,

 

The wiretap difference is HUGE.  The quadzilla can produce nearly %100 more power than stock due to it.  If you double the length of time the solenoid is help open you will inject ~2x the fuel.  

[dodgedieselnewbie]

16 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

Tom,

 

The wiretap difference is HUGE.  The quadzilla can produce nearly %100 more power than stock due to it.  If you double the length of time the solenoid is help open you will inject ~2x the fuel.  

In what way tho? Does it change the numbers on the edge chart? 

Main Level	Horse Power / Timing
1	40
2	60
3	80
4	100
5	120

Are the hp above numbers for an untapper pump or tapped?

Sub Level	Fuel Rate / Timing
1	33% of Fuel is supplied until 20 PSI of Boost then 100% is supplied
2	50% of Fuel is supplied until 15 PSI of Boost then 100% is supplied
3	67% of Fuel is supplied until 10 PSI of Boost then 100% is supplied
4	adds less fuel than Sub-level 5
5	adds the most fuel at low boost

Same question for this chart....

 

23 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

Tom... Was I right about this forum!?  

mmhmm ;-)

Edited February 24, 2016 by dodgedieselnewbie

[Me78569]

the chart is for wiretap.  Your edge not wiretapped cannot put out more than 65 hp over stock or lvl 2.  Anything over lvl2 is no different if your wiretap is not plugged in. 

for main level adjustments not sub level

lvl1 = timing only

lvl2 = timing +canbus fueling

lvl3 - lvl 5 = timing + canbus fueling + increasing wiretap fueling

( VERY ROUGH numbers as an example)

lvl 3 give you a max of %33 more fuel compared to stock, so canbus message fueling override + %15 wiretap ms increase,

lvl 4 gives you a max of %50 more fuel compared to stock, so canbus message fueling override + %30 wiretap ms increase,

lvl 5 gives you a max of %75 more fuel compared to stock, so canbus message fueling override + %50 wiretap ms increase,

 

Keep in mind the tuning is VERY dynamic so there is no set MS set for the solenoid to be open. The is altered by a vast number of different sensor inputs.  again the above is just rough numbers as I have no idea what edge actually does for MS increase.  

 

the sublevel just changes how much the tuner fuels before 10 psi of boost.  The lower the sublevel the less fuel is injected before 10 psi is reached.  So take all of the above then just move the point where it happens below or above 10psi 

Edited February 24, 2016 by Me78569

[Mopar1973Man]

Without wire tap it limited to 60 HP period. With wire 120 HP on the Edge. With Quadzilla its up to 180 HP.

[dodgedieselnewbie]

Excellent... Now I understand. Thanks a million!

[TFaoro]

42 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Without wire tap it limited to 60 HP period. With wire 120 HP on the Edge. With Quadzilla its up to 180 HP.

Don't forget about the TST...... one of the most uncontrollable, hardest fueling boxes on the market!

[CSM]

8 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

Don't forget about the TST...... one of the most uncontrollable, hardest fueling boxes on the market!

 Uncontrollable?  Hmmm.  Dunno about that. 

[Mopar1973Man]

Correction...

1 hour ago, TFaoro said:

Don't forget about the TST...... one of the most uncontrollable, hardest fuel ONLY boxes on the market!

TST is strictly a fuel only box...

[TFaoro]

On 2/24/2016 at 11:06 AM, CSM said:

 Uncontrollable?  Hmmm.  Dunno about that. 

Come drive mine above level 5 and let me know if you can keep the exhaust below 1600 and the surging from ripping the drivetrain apart.....

[Mopar1973Man]

1 hour ago, TFaoro said:

Come drive mine above level 5 and let me know if you can keep the exhaust below 1600 and the surging from ripping the drivetrain apart.....

I'll bring my truck and toolbox. Yank those twins off, yank those big injectors out and put some smaller ones in. Pull the double stack programmer and TST off. Run just one. It'll drive just fine and very controllable. 

[Me78569]

I think tyler already has the issue under control haha.

[CSM]

1 hour ago, TFaoro said:

Come drive mine above level 5 and let me know if you can keep the exhaust below 1600 and the surging from ripping the drivetrain apart.....

Makes sense. I've never had it above 5 and it gets kinda... dark behind me at that point.  Below that though, silky smooth power compared to Edge.

Edited February 25, 2016 by CSM

[Hawkez]

1 hour ago, TFaoro said:

Come drive mine above level 5 and let me know if you can keep the exhaust below 1600 and the surging from ripping the drivetrain apart.....

Is that offer open to anyone?

[NightHawk]

10 hours ago, TFaoro said:

Come drive mine above level 5 and let me know if you can keep the exhaust below 1600 and the surging from ripping the drivetrain apart.....

Dare you to try an old redline box