Quadzilla V2 Custom Tunes

[Dieselfuture]

I think I may need some help with tuning. I now have 62/67/12 made out of hx35/40 and 75hp 8 hole injectors. It's definitely laggy compared to my hx35 and 60hp I had. But I did little bit of turning and it got a little better. My starting point is 80 on canbus with 3 for increase. http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/math/exponential-growth-calculator.htm

My biggest problem or maybe not a problem, is that before I changed turbo from hx35 to current l used to be able hit 45 psi (passed 35 probably nothing but hot air ) pretty quick, and now I'm struggling to hit 25. Max I hit for psi is 30 with canbus maxed and pump stretch at 1200. Another thing is cursing at 60mph my canbus was maybe at 600 and now it's at least a 1000 and boost went from 7-8 to 3-4. Is it just the nature of bigger turbos. Does anyone else has a similar set up that can post their tunes. Daily, economy, tow etc. 

 

Edit: 

Had a boost leak on new turbo, it's much better now on lag and canbus is down to 7-800 from 1-1100 when cruising. Still trying to figure things out.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Dieselfuture

[Dieselfuture]

Boy this thread is alive and kicking, 

So if the idea is to max out canbus asap without exessive smoke, my question is for mpg tune if I'm starting out at 78 canbus with 3.8 curve it would put me at 90.5 canbus at 4 psi boost. Which with 75hp injectors I'm probably close to factory truck. I'm just trying to figure out how is more canbus better, why not detune the truck when you don't need power. Unless it doesn't work that way. 

[Dieselfuture]

Another question, if these trucks came with retarded timing for emissions, and advancing it is better for mpg and performance. Wouldn't retarded timing be worse for emissions, not all fuel is burnt and probably something else I can't think of at this moment. 

[Dodgeih]

Any one have their tunes posted for trucks comparable to mine? 6x.013 injectors hx35(62/64/14)over s475 compounds? looking for good starting point as im finaly about to finish up the overhaul. looking for a clean dd tune with good mpg but isnt boring to drive, safe tow tune, and a race tune where power is key and byproducts (like smoke) dont matter to much. any input is great. i skimmed over the whole thread didnt see much comparable.. maybe i missed one or two. will be doing the base line tunes here in the next 2 weeks (after break in) but would like a jump start if anyone has any ideas! thanks guys

[Me78569]

you will need to find your start %, but I am guessing it will be in the ~%70 range for a clean DD tune.  I would try tylers tunes and see how they work.

 

Steps for figuring out a good starting point of a big injector truck

 

1. put the quad to lvl 1. 

2. create custom tune

3. use valet mode power setting to set a fueling % to start with.  IE put 75% as your valet power.

4. load the tune on the iquad

5. go WOT from a stop.

 

Is it too smokey?  if so decrease valet mode power.  Is it too slow?   increase valet mode power.  You want to throw as much fuel at the truck at WOT as possible to balance power vs smokey offidle.

 

 

Do this until you find a good starting % for your tune.  once you have that use that % as the starting point for your canbus tuning.

[Dodgeih]

i kinda thought tylers may be the closest i could see. thanks. I'll start by finding that %

 

[Dieselfuture]

So I played a bit with updated flash and light throttle timing, what i noticed is cruse timing is higher now then before, even default tune. before I'd be cruising at 65 and have 18.5 19 for timing now at default it's above 20, not sure why. By the way my default tune and my race tune are about the same on power and spool up, just more smokier lol. Do we know the base maps for default tune, can it be rode down like custom tunes so we can see canbus, timing, etc. My mpg tune is smoke free but it's a dog, driving down a hwy switching from default to mpg feels like i lose few cylinders but if I increase canbus then smoke becomes evident. I can now drive about 63,4 mph and only have 1-2 psi of boost, where as before i would be around 7-8 that is probably caused by bigger turbo. So just looking for some input as usual, 

[Me78569]

light throttle timing tacks on 1* after 55 mph.  

 

Defaults are

 

Quote

#define DEF_TIMING_SCALE   30
#define DEF_LOW_BOOST_ADV 20  //this is how much timing to pull at max TPS vs low boost.
#define DEF_LOW_BOOST_SCALE 100 //Sets how much scaling to use for timing.
#define DEF_CRUISE_TIME_MAX 20 // timing to add when at cruise state 2*
#define DEF_CRUISE_TIME_PSI 30 //max load % to allow cruise time
#define DEF_TIME_MAX1 150 //below 1500 revs 15*
#define DEF_TIME_MAX2 180 //below 2000 revs 18*
#define DEF_TIME_MAX3 210 //below 2500 revs 21*
#define DEF_TIME_MAX4 230 //below 3000 revs 23*
#define DEF_TIMING_ADV_MAX  250 // above 3500 revs 25*

#define DEF_BOOST_MAX      35

#define DEF_BOOST_SCALE_MIN_PUMP 0 //** can be a % from 0-100 min fueling boost %
#define DEF_BOOST_SCALE_PSI_PUMP 5  //** Set this to a PSI
#define DEF_RPM_MAX               3400

 

#define DEF_FUEL_TIME_MAX   1800

#define DEF_POWER_REDUCTION_SCALE    50  //** can be a % from 0-100 0 for no reduction 100 for %100 reduction

#define DEF_PUMP_TPS_MAXMAP_POINT    100    // can be 1 - 100
#define DEF_PUMP_TPS_MAPSCALE_MIN    10    // can be 0 - 100

#define DEF_POWER_SCALE0 101
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE1 103
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE2 105
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE3 107
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE4 110
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE5 113
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE6 116
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE7 119
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE8 122
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE9 125
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE10 128
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE11 131
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE12 134
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE13 137
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE14 140
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE15 143
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE16 146
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE17 149
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE18 150
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE19 150
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE20 150
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE21 150
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE22 150
#define DEF_POWER_SCALE23 150

 

[Dodgeih]

On 10/28/2016 at 1:43 PM, TFaoro said:

@Me78569 

 

On 10/28/2016 at 1:43 PM, TFaoro said:

Power Levels: 11 

 

Fuel Load timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:4

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Maximum Fuel Stretch: 1200

TPS Pump max: 99

TPS Pump Min: 50

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 25

Boost Scaling: 35

 

RPM Limit: 3700

 

Power Reduction: LOW

 

0 PSI %: 69

1 PSI %: 70

2 PSI %: 71

3 PSI %: 72

4 PSI %: 73

5 PSI %: 75

6 PSI %: 77

7 PSI %: 79

8 PSI %: 81

9 PSI %: 83

10 PSI %: 85

11 PSI %: 87

12 PSI %: 89 

13 PSI %: 91

14 PSI %: 93 

15 PSI %: 95

16 PSI %: 97

17 PSI %: 99 

18 PSI %: 100 

20 PSI %: 100

22 PSI %: 100

24 PSI %: 100 

26 PSI %: 100 

28 PSI %: 100

30 PSI %: 100

 Can anyone modify this to make for towing

 

 My mods in signature.

 

[Me78569]

What about that tune does not fit towing application?  Too much fuel, to little?  is it too hot etc?

[Dodgeih]

1 hour ago, Me78569 said:

What about that tune does not fit towing application?  Too much fuel, to little?  is it too hot etc?

Haven't figured that out yet. Mainly just wondering is since this is more of a dd tune, if the timing settings were going to be a little aggressive or not wanted to just get some input before i wrecked something.

 

[Me78569]

I would run it and see how it acts.  

 

You won't wreck anything.  

[crf450ish]

Hey has anyone ever made an experimental tune for play purposes only? For example 150% can bus all the way through the boost range and TPS pump max set to 0%? Would this not make the truck behave like a smarty & edge stack smarty on 9 edge on 6?

 

 

Obviously wouldn't drive with this tune. Maybe putt around a parking lot and see how much it smokes.....

Edited August 25, 2017 by crf450ish

[Me78569]

Setting to %150 across the board is pretty much identical to smarty on sw9.  If you bring in wiretap hard you can dump more fuel than any other tuner I have seen.  

 

Run this.

 

Quote

Power Levels: 6 

 

Fuel Load timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:0

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 0

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Maximum Fuel Stretch: 2000

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min: 0

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:50

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 0

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3700

 

Power Reduction: LOW

 

0 PSI %: 150

1 PSI %: 150

2 PSI %: 150

3 PSI %: 150

4 PSI %: 150

5 PSI %: 150

6 PSI %: 150

7 PSI %: 150

8 PSI %: 150

9 PSI %: 150

10 PSI %: 150

11 PSI %: 150

12 PSI %: 150

13 PSI %: 150

14 PSI %: 150

15 PSI %: 150

16 PSI %: 150

17 PSI %: 150

18 PSI %: 150 

20 PSI %: 150

22 PSI %: 150

24 PSI %: 150

26 PSI %: 150

28 PSI %: 150

30 PSI %: 150

 

 

And hold on.  You have studs right?  

Edited August 25, 2017 by Me78569

[trreed]

God damn that looks like the perfect questionable life choice haha. 

[Me78569]

dont come crying to me if you blow an input shaft or ujoint or head or "insert random thing to break"

Edited August 25, 2017 by Me78569

[trreed]

How about when a headlight turns off for a few days and then magically comes back on? ?

[crf450ish]

On 8/24/2017 at 8:50 PM, Me78569 said:

dont come crying to me if you blow an input shaft or ujoint or head or "insert random thing to break"

I am saving up to do the 150's and the SXE turbo and springs and studs and pushrods all at once. Also putting a new titanium 150 pump on. I can't stand doing one thing at a time. Id rather pull it into my shop....install ALL the upgrades at once and pull it out. 

[Dodgeih]

So here's a dumb question... I have a 2001, in the vehicle selection you can pick 1998-2002 dodge v2 (version 2.5) or 2001-2001 dodge v2 (version 2.4) what's the difference and what one should I be using? 

[Me78569]

what base flash are you using?  When is the last time your updated? If you look at your data log you should see a "build date" sensor what does that say