Dunno if anyone else has been watching the trends as of late with the technology going into cars and trucks, but I find it very interesting.  I myself am nearly %100 positive that we will see a over take of gas/diesel in the next 10 years by Electric.  

 

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180702005572/en/Cummins-Announces-Acquisition-Electric-Hybrid-Powertrain-Provider

 

Cummins is moving a large section of their operations to it.  

 

VW built a Electric Peak car that stomped the old records

https://mashable.com/2018/06/25/volkswagen-pikes-peak-car/#FGXNO2fxQaqw

%25 of the power it took to go up the hill was generated by the brakes going up the pass.

 

 

Demon vs Tesla  

 

 

P100D Dyno 

No gears, no turbo lag and %100 torque at idle.  

 

 

In wheel motor 100 hp each 700+ ft/lb %85 efficency of energy recoup during braking.

https://www.nanalyze.com/2014/03/proteans-unique-100hp-in-wheel-electric-motor/

 

They are a complete package in 1, feed it power and a command for how much output and that's it.  

 

 

 

the only thing we are lacking at this point is a way to store the energy with a high enough energy density to replace fossil fuels.  Multiple recharge techonologies have proven 30 minute %80 charge possiblity.  

 

 

I did take note of BP buying Londons largest electric vehicle charging firm
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/energy-giant-bp-bets-on-electric-car-boom-10481430
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/energy-giant-bp-bets-on-electric-car-boom-10481430

 

 

Pretty cool stuff.

 

 

I read some statistic years ago that stated only 1/3 of 30% of all oil production out of the ground is used for transportation.  The rest is used for products and everything else made from petroleum.  Wish I could find that info again...

Bet someone will try something like this

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a25933730/ford-f-150-electric-pickup-truck-confirmed/

 

 

Looks like ford is saying it will happen for the 2021 model year with their new platform

Here is a bit on newer engines.

 

Well the great Musk has shown us the future.....

 

 

 

 

man the future is ugly. 

 

 

Thankfully GM and Ford both have models coming that aren't as ugly.

 

 

 

This what happens if you breed a Dolorean with an El Camino 

And the prediction is true..after a year tesla released the first electric truck. But I'm not yet buying it. 

Free market drives innovation.  I am happy to see tesla's ugly truck because it pushed ford and gm to produce something.

 

Rivian is also there. 

 

We want innovation it makes things better.  Gen 1's are not great but they get better.  Throw money and markets towards it and they better quickly.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-solid-state-battery-ev-2021/

 

 

Solid state batteries in testing next year.   wide production of solid state batteries will help all around with range and charge times.   We will see where Musk ends up with his cathode free and cobalt free as well.   

 

 

interesting stuff.

Well they are coming for sure and will be a big part transportation sooner than we think. A lot of progress being made at a pretty quick clip.

yea, money is being throw at it rapidly now.      hopefully the grid can catch up

 

 

5 hours ago, Me78569 said:

yea, money is being throw at it rapidly now.      hopefully the grid can catch up

 

 

I would like to find the part of the grid that lets hook up to a diesel pump for free. 

45 seconds a day would keep me happy.

That's the stupid part everyone thinks electric vehicles are free. Someone is paying for that power either going to be a rise in taxes or just your home power bill. trust me when I'm sitting here its a mere +63*F in the house, +19*F outside, I'm running out of firewood. Yeah I know this month is going be a $200 plus a month just to keep warm, now toss in a massive battery for a vehicle, that draws power like my electric dryer or my heat pump. You can safely figure in just doubling my power bill. Regardless your still paying for the electricity some how. Power plant still emit CO2 into the air just as much as you drive your electric car around just emitted from the power plant not your car. Still not fixing the issues of reducing CO2 emission.

 

Still in all HP (fuel) to HP (electric) is going to require X amount of amp hours (electric) stored to travel. For mountain area like where I'm at just not effective. I'm now seeing electric cars once in awhile out run there charge and left stuck. Currently if you leave Boise there is NOTHING north to recharge a electric vehicle I know Ontario, OR has a few charging stations but nothing north of Boise. Lewiston ID I've not seen any charging stations as of yet unless they are hidden down a side street.

 

Kind of like when I was buying my truck there wasn't any diesel fuel available in my area but maybe one or two stations and expensive. Now with the amount of diesel vehicles diesel fuel is available just about every where. I almost opted for a 60 fuel tank where purchasing my 2002 Dodge. 

I believe volkswagen is putting up a bunch of charge stations as their punishment for diesel gate. But like Nick said there's a lot of loop holes and more than likely we'll be paying in the end as tax payers. 

Toyota is in top of technology, hydrogen fuel cells are looking promising, I believe tesla is in partnership with toyota on some of that. If you wached demolition man from 90s you can pretty much see our future there, or their future, I want no part of it. 

I see afair amount of charging stations on the interstates around my neck of the woods. Mostly Tesla and mostly at Sheetz stations. I still think you have to know where they were to take a long trip for sure.

21 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

I believe volkswagen is putting up a bunch of charge stations as their punishment for diesel gate. But like Nick said there's a lot of loop holes and more than likely we'll be paying in the end as tax payers. 

Toyota is in top of technology, hydrogen fuel cells are looking promising, I believe tesla is in partnership with toyota on some of that. If you wached demolition man from 90s you can pretty much see our future there, or their future, I want no part of it. 

What, you dont like Taco Bell???

Anyone that says electric is free is clearly not looking at the entire picture. 

 

My excitement is in the technology and how well electric is suited to a drivetrain.  

 

The automotive world will look alot different in 20-30 years.

1 hour ago, dripley said:

What, you dont like Taco Bell???

you did watch it, I mean you got to admit there's a lot of predictive programming in them movies...

3 hours ago, Dieselfuture said:

you did watch it, I mean you got to admit there's a lot of predictive programming in them movies...

That movie pops up on tv every so often. Everybody riding around in electric cars. I especially liked the system that filled the passenger compartment with foam to encase you during a wreck. It was a pretty good movie. Nothing like Sylvester and Wesley tearing up the town.

Great movie!

 

 

The people that run out of electricity would run out of gas too. They figure 300 miles in town is the same as 300 miles in the mountains. 
 

Lots of places to top off your battery bank, you just have to plan on it like towing thru the mountains. 
 

https://www.plugshare.com

13 hours ago, AH64ID said:

https://www.plugshare.com

 

LOL... I got a huge chuckle about the plug share link. None of those places are outfitted with proper charging station period. Like the Riverside RV park. That is a full RV park right now there is no way to reach a plug if you wanted. Just came back from Lewiston and seen they are full.

 

Like Canyon Pines near me is a RV park but they are full right now with storage of RV's. No way to reach a plug if you wanted. 

 

Hartland Inn in New Meadows does not have any charging station. It's a motel. I've driven past there just other day. 

 

Grangeville again I know exactly where that Motel 8 is but never seen any charging station. Right along the highway. I just past that 2 days ago heading to Lewiston.

 

Shore Lodge in McCall is a possible spot but never checked on it. 

 

I'm going to check on my local places to confirm.

 

Now the listing in Ontario, OR is correct there is a charging station. Still a 2.5 hour drive to get to. I watch that being build every day I took MoparMom to dialysis. I know exact where both are.