Quadzilla Adrenaline V2 Testing

[Me78569]

@TFaoro............... Don't mind me just not doing anything.........

3 minutes ago, Carbur8tr said:

@Me78569 Two questions,

 

1) Pump stretch, what exactly is limiting us to 1200-2200 microseconds? Have you looked any into variable stretch?

 

2) When you're referring to the fueling tables what exactly are you referring to?  Is this stock fueling tables or something that you or quad/Spencer/whoever designed?  

 

My rough understanding is that the canbus percentage map is only for canbus fueling so ~65hp to be had there, but when it comes to the fueling tables and pump stretch I'm a bit confused after reading through a few things.  

1. The construction of the parts on the board.  That's why the 4k is physically different.  I have not sure there is a good way to do it beyond the map.  We could do a similar thing to canbus, but there would require another 20 some odd tuning variables, not gonna happen.   It is already variable based on the map, 0-100% ramp up based on values,   Keep in mind you can contorl a lot of the map right now with the boost settings and tps settings, and min wiretap settings.  

 

2. The Wiretap uses a fueling table to tell the quad how much of the wiretap micro sec to apply.  The main fueling tables we use are in the ecm however.   you would have to show me the post you are confused about. 

 

 

So rememeber that canbus fueling isn't 65 hp, it is roughly 300 hp or 3/4 of the total fueling we have.  Wiretap will add another ~2200 microseconds on top of what we have using canbus.  without the canbus fueling base wiretap is really not that much power.  

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2017 by Me78569

[JDHudsn]

 I just flashed and downloaded the latest update this afternoon, and also chose normal fueling. I copied a few tunes that I found on here and was driving under the performance tune (moparman posted) and for some reason iquad on my tablet quit. However, I could tell that it was still in the performance mode as I was driving because the acceleration pick up was far better than stock.. What do you suggest I do?? I  tried turning the truck on and off I also restarted the tablet and made sure the Bluetooth was still connected.  My truck is mainly stock I don't have injectors I don't have any turbo upgrades I have a fass 150 in a 5 inch Turbo back exhaust.  The truck is running fine I'm just not sure how to get iquad working properly on the tablet

Edited February 9, 2017 by JDHudsn
Wanted to add pictures

[Me78569]

Uninstall the app and reinstall, make sure you are running the APk from the thread with the flashes.

[JDHudsn]

10-4 I'll look into it first thing in the morning. Thank you

[Dieselfuture]

9 hours ago, TFaoro said:

Someday I'm going to convince you to do some work on the backdowns. The main one I'd like to see is EGT defueling smoother than just jumping levels. 

Agree, I'd be useing defuel options if they were smooth. I used it few times and sounded like my truck blew up. So disabled them. 

It would be nice for Towing if you weren't paying attention to gauges and started to lose power smoothly, then you would just downshift knowing that you just hit one of the defuel parameters.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Dieselfuture

[Mopar1973Man]

7 hours ago, Me78569 said:

Uninstall the app and reinstall, make sure you are running the APk from the thread with the flashes.

 

Right here...

 

[JDHudsn]

Everything is operational. I will be taking a 500 mile road trip starting tonight. Hoping to mess with different tunes and try out one of the economy tunes. Thanks everyone for all you're hard work you have put into this. This tuner is a game changer!

[Me78569]

Hope it treats you well.  If oyu have stock injectors I would keep cruise timing in the 1* or 2* range.

[xxTJRocksxx]

Hey guys, getting my truck back Monday! Can't wait to update the new flashes and get rolling

[Mopar1973Man]

I'm now in the phase testing 1* of cruise timing.

[Carbur8tr]

4 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I'm now in the phase testing 1* of cruise timing.

I'm at .1 which is having the truck hover in the 17 degree range and so far it looks like this tank is going to come out with better mileage.  Will have to fill up tomorrow so I'll let you know what I find.

 

On another note @Me78569 and @jlbayes, I've been reading a little on the VP mainly just trying to get some more info on pop pressure and so forth and most of what I found is just hearsay.  What I would really like to find is some information on "max reliable pop pressure" that's attainable.

 

Two concerns though, 1 the pump itself and the max pressure it can provide to an repeatable injection event, and 2 the happy medium between atomization and risk breaking a tip or fatiguing the spring.  Any thoughts?

[Me78569]

Keep in mind that pop pressure is only ~4500 psi, the vp maxes out over 20k psi I think.

 

I doubt 20 or 30 more bar will make the vp angry or damage stuff.

[Mopar1973Man]

17 minutes ago, Carbur8tr said:

I'm at .1 which is having the truck hover in the 17 degree range and so far it looks like this tank is going to come out with better mileage.  Will have to fill up tomorrow so I'll let you know what I find.

 

 

 I can say I've tried 4.5* all the way down to 1.0* of cruise timing with no change in MPGs so far. I'm hovering at about 15* total timing at 55 MPG and 16* at 65 MPH. Still hanging around the 18.7 MPG range. I think part of this is the limit of the winterized fuel I'm using.

[Carbur8tr]

I've read 20k as well but find that hard to believe considering that would be close to 5 times that of spec which is 4500 +-250(per the manual).  If it was though I wonder if timing becomes an issue at that point?  Also I would have to wonder how long the injector pump could sustain that pressure.  You could definitely empty the barrels/plungers a lot faster which might mean more RPMS up top.....

 

Now you really have me thinking.

 

 

Edited February 10, 2017 by Carbur8tr

[jlbayes]

I texted a builder. We'll see what he has to say.

[Me78569]

Very curious to hear thoughts

[Mopar1973Man]

4,500 PSI is the pop pressure of the injector. Just like all the fuel system they all raise the line pressure to throttle more. 

[jlbayes]

"No point in going over 300 bar, often see stalling issues there or higher. Manual trucks tend to lope. I've seen better results at 290-300 bar."

 

What he responded with.

Edited February 10, 2017 by jlbayes

[Me78569]

Can you respond back asking what would happening if we were to manually offset idle state timing?  

 

[jlbayes]

He wants to know what exactly is trying to be accomplished with the increased pop pressure and subsequent timing increase.