rogerash0

This is my tuner, however it's the 98.5-00 model https://edgeproducts.com/shop/01-02-dodge-5-9l-cummins-competition-juice-w-attitude-cs2 I have a print sheet and pics of the Dyno screen that the print sheet is of. I logged the runs on the edge, but I doubt that will show us the ramp rate of timing you are talking about, unless that's contained in some variable I am unaware of. We also put a mechanical boost gauge on and i saw a Max of 53 or 55. It looked to move and reflect boost numbers quite differently to the one on the edge screen, but it was all happening very fast. We did three baseline pulls and four with the 220 sticks.

Right on, ya. Had a great day at Firepunk Diesel in the sticks of Ohio. Laid down 653.4hp with the 225 Mach 6 injectors from F1 Diesel, on the first pull. Truck doesn't like timing, it made the most hp with timing on 2. I should have tried timing on 1 (stock). Tq was about 1200-1250 depending. 455hp was the best with the "50" hp injectors. Thanks jl, I've seen his thread and checked out the setup when he posted it. $$

I've had hid 55w and 35w and they were almost too bright. The 55w was too bright. The spread pattern was crap. The ddm tuning 55w failed after a slight wash under the hood from when my tranny line blew. My engine oil was in the words "add" on the dipstick just now. I est 1 to 1.5qts low. I maintained oil pressure the whole time driving. When I am low on oil like that, below the safe zone, is the motor ok bc there is oil pressure but the oil cooling capacity is reduced bc there is less/low oil in the engine? Thx

I've been around the web but I haven't come across writeups on the mod. I would just like it now for when it's pitch black on the interstate. I'm in Gillette currently getting gas. In the last 211 mi I got 12.5mpg exactly. Weigh ticket reads Steer axle 4700lb. Drive axle 6120lb Trailer axle 11500lb Gross weight 22320lb Attachments never work from my phone on here

Who can tell me how to keep the brights and normal headlight on at the same time. Like when I pull the lever back for brights but don't click it they ate both on and it's way better. I'm driving at night cross country thx

Hua. Im surprised Quadzilla doesnt incorporate an explanation like Edge does when you push right on the setting.

Sounds good, thanks. Thanks for the youtube video rundown of what all the parameters do, Im going to have to watch it a few times to remember what exactly everything does.

Does this release also incur the "hard fuel" feature?

I noticed recently my fuel lines were the cause of what I thought was tappet sound from under the valve cover. It was metallic/harmonic. Needed to put a few of the clamps back on. Im talking about the brass colored metal ones that are all close to each other running from the VP to the injectors.

hmm ya. It seems like I need to watch for voltage drop at the airdog as i accelerate. Not sure how to do it, that would take some really long meter leads. I guess a backprobe and some wire would work. Odds are its just a bum motor, I suppose. The brand new 165 and 200gph motors, both. I was driving totally tame today, not blowing smoke but on level 6, and the vp fuel pressure is 21-22 just humming along at 1300rpm. And my fuel tank is 90% full. Its ridiculous. It just slowly drops as you step into the pedal. I am getting anxious to put the old school 100 motor on there, which came on the truck and never dropped pressure on me previously, and see what it does. 2nd Gen Cummins Nation! Joined 8,947 members

By this do you mean that Don does really well unconventionally with the smaller hole size, and still gets great results? Objectively speaking, for a daily driven truck, and I leaving power out of the equation by not getting his 220 or 240hp injectors? I dont know the quad well enough to know if I could clean up those bigger injectors, and/or if the bigger injectors would lead to a crankier truck? Do the injectors over 200hp empty the VP too easily? That's why you have the holley lift pump? Do you think it would be sensible or wise to put a holley lift pump after my airdog to keep fuel pressure steady at the VP? I suspect my VP pressure will drop from 25psi idle to 8psi WOT with my AD 4G 200 /w with these larger injectors. I know the holly may not handle the inlet pressure so well, but I suppose it is quite adjustable on the Airdog. (ive started to not like the injector hp rating either, the hole sizes & # of holes sounds more precise) 7*.011 is very close to 6*.013, so I stuck to your suggestion on size as close as I could. His wife also said they start out as 7*.011's but will flow more than that. & thanks Treed

Cool, thanks for showing me that. Do u know why a fuel return on the injectors is needed? They pop at x amt of pressure right, so the vp can't get it exactly dead on every time at the right time? I guess not bc of what we see in the CR engines. The over fueling down low is what drives me nuts.

Impressive, I thought those injectors would be huge for a he351ve but shows what I know. I think thats the magic in the Quad adr v2 tuning, right? Also how does the excess fuel leave the injector? I dont see a hole in the injector tubes or injectors for the fuel to flow out in the path of a return. I have put a new washer on the back of the head's banjo bolt, so I am familiar with the return line.

From what I got someone was saying you are limited by the 12 bit bus (2^12), not being able to send the vp44 a higher fueling value, >4096, but I have to think in the firmware of the bosch test bench that programs the vp44 ram (I dont think it would be rom if its getting re-written to via the bosch test bench, altho I think some rom chips can be re-written to but its really not my area of expertise), it sets the amt of fuel injected for each value between 0 & 4096 via something like rpms, voltages, resistance to a circuit, some kind of fuel delivery valve that opens for so long, etc. So that more fuel could be injected. Conventional wisdom would say the pumps have some overhead or have more juice in them than what they are programmed for due to emissions. But we really need a firmware engineer who worked on the pumps who's seen the source code to really know. And even then, a firmware engineer may not know what the mechanical engineers put together. But even still, testing could be done. I have to think there are people out there who could reverse engineer it from a bosch test bench. Since the source code is probably locked away in a vault, have a test bench dump the payload onto a chip we can read from and analyze, but that's really getting into the weeds. Perhaps manipulating a test bench to manipulate the output written to a vp44 would be an eaiser endeavor, if the test benches wernt too expensive. Seems too niche unfortunately. Not to mention Bosch would take to the courts Im sure. Defcon videos on reverse engineering WoW, atms, etc get pretty interesting. I have to think your right. One thing Ive always wondered tho, is when you have way bigger injectors, is how the pump keeps the same fuel pressure coming out of injectors that are massively bigger than stock. I suppose the pump could have the overhead built into the chambers (ya I made that word up, I dont know what the correct verbage is, plunger barrels perhaps) to push large injectors at stock pressures, but I tend to doubt it. Whats the deal here/there?

somehow I posted in the wrong tab :o excuse me

ha, scuttlebutt. cool. Don's wife tells me my injectors will ship tomorrow - F1 Diesel - Don said at sea level /w my setup the Mach 6's which are 200hp injectors will get me 620hp. His wife said they start out as 7x.011's, but what sets them apart is how they open up the holes. It sounds like they get chamfered along the 'outside' radius. So they flow more, roughly. I thought that sounded like plenty of HP, so instead of going to 220 or 240hp injectors, I went with the 200s. It was along the lines of thinking the trucks get crankier with big injectors, but I could be wrong there too. 200 is already big, so I thought less might be more. Time will tell. Another big factor is how TFaroro stepped down from something like roughly 300hp injectors, 6x.018s I think, to 200hp 6x.013's. I need to find that thread again somehow. Unfortunately it might be buried in the details of his build.

JL Im gonna call Don this am & see if he has any 200-240 horse injectors on the shelf. I say that bc last I spoke to his wife they had 150s on the shelf. Do you think Don's F1 injectors will really fall short of Infinite or Hailey? Perhaps its hard to know. Wasnt TFaroro running some giant 6x.018s and he stepped down to 6x0.013s? Im just trying to get a feel if I run dons mach 5,6 or 7 (200/220/240hp) I plan on taking your advice on the size, but getting a 7x.011 or 7x.012 since 6 hole doesnt seem to be an option, and mathematically those both boarder on 6x.013. Ill ring infinite and haileys first, see if that gets anywhere.

Gone did it boys, got a quadzilla coming. Hope the v2 adr1000 loaded tunes are OK. Hope I dont encounter any crazy surprises with it, like a locked number of updates or something silly. The DDP120's sold. XDP was out of stock until Thursday, so I called up DAP for the first time ever & they price matched XDP /w the discount and its shipping out of Utah so I should have it by Thursday he said. I wont lie, I dont trust em as a company. I saw Tfaoro praising them a lot on CF, but if Im not mistaken things eventually took a turn for the worse? I went to put the AD100 motor on, the old school motor that it is, it came on my truck when I bought it, but the W/S will have to come off, and I had just filled up my gas tank, and I have a sump, so it looks like that will have to wait until I am low on gas so I dont get covered in diesel. Its been one too many times that I've had a diesel or ATF bath to want to do it again. Tried having a small talk with Weston & Hailey about injectors, if they had any ready to go at short notice. Didnt get anywhere with either of them. I need to get them on the phone, but it seems like everyone is so busy these days and doesnt have time for the phone. Weston told me he has micro-blind sac & more, I told him its not my area of expertise, I dont know what the differences are (after initially laying down my setup and application hoping he would just tell me what is best) and I never heard back after that. Same /w Hailey on FB quite really. Im trying to have the shortest conversation possible, quick to the point, buy the stuff, ship it out before I leave, but I guess that wasnt fate. So now I have the quad first, rather. I figured if I was going to Firepunk and D&J I may as well have the truck /w the big injectors I'll be running, because with the DDP120's the white smoke it was blowing was ridiculous. It was coming in the passenger window when I was at a stop light /w a warm engine. Its not bad with the 50HP sticks, but Im afraid I'll put in the bigger injectors and the white smoke that I attribute to leaking valve seals will be rediculous with large injectors, as it was prior. Time will tell. Im sure I can sell my edge juice comp for the price of injectors. Everyone on JL's 2nd Gen FB group seems to be mentioning them as of late. Or a number of people anyways..

Sell it as is and cut your losses. I stayed in mine and the money pit only continues to grow deeper, just as yours has.

All I could suggest is some emery cloth on the surfaces, and the The Right Stuff is a very good sealant. (the best, in fact)

My truck is a 98.5 and I havnt seen these on my truck what so ever. What gives?

That's certainly good to know.

I dont have an adrenaline yet, unfortunately. Do you think the reading would be a static 3.3x so we could divide by 3.3x and always get a presumably accurate reading?

Here is the fuel pressure sensor that came with my Edge JWA Comp shows 0-50psi after a google. http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kavlico/P500-50-A-E4C/?qs=bZC7aUKSI5%2bklCJOHd0vzw%3D%3D My other two sensors are on the truck, but I was told on the phone that they are 0-100psig, and to configure them that way in the software. I did go grab the cab module out of the truck, plugged it in, and got a screenshot shown below off of it of the s475 & drv pressure gauges. Also spec'd out as 0-100psi on their site per part no. here: https://edgeproducts.com/shop/eas-pressure-sensor-0-100-psig-1-8in-npt

@jlbayes When was the movement in the tuning world, per say?