Tire balance

[Dieselfuture]

Alright I know it's been brought up in past, now that more time gone by I'd like to hear more on ways of balancing tires. Mainly I'm interested in people that use balancing beeds like counteract. I used them in trailer before and honestly couldn't tell you the difference as it never gave me problems before. I also used it in a suburban of some one I know and rode in it with good results. I am now thinking of getting rid of waights on my truck and using them. My few year old wheels are starting to get that aluminum corrosion under waights on wheels so I want to use beeds jus need some more imput. 

 

[TFaoro]

I've never seen anything bad about beads. My brother has them in his 33x12.5R20's and hasn't had an issue. Just make sure you put enough in.

[Dieselfuture]

Yeah that's what I think people that have problems with them, just don't put enough in. I think for like what I got 285/70/17 6oz should be close.

[TFaoro]

5 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

Yeah that's what I think people that have problems with them, just don't put enough in. I think for like what I got 285/70/17 6oz should be close.

It's very obvious if you don't have enough - it'll have a nice vibration.

[Dieselfuture]

I wonder if it's nassesary to use different valve stems, I didn't last time but not sure if it's a long term side effects. 

Nevermind got on their website and it said it could cause valve core to be opened and they recommend using theirs that comes with the beeds, I had 2 per bag. And the amount is 6 oz 

http://www.counteractbalancing.com/applications/

Edited July 28, 2017 by Dieselfuture

[CTcummins24V]

centramatics, they work. Have on my truck now, no weights.

 

[Dieselfuture]

I wondered about them, never checked the price though. Are they filled with antifreeze whith air space left. 

[CTcummins24V]

Shot I believe. They arent cheap

[Dieselfuture]

Got waights off and put beeds in, put about 150 ml on, seems to be working. I gutted my water separator and air choke and also drilled a bigger hole in air choke. Worked well as long as put smaller amounts in filter housing and shook it ss bids were going in. Can only do it in 10 or so second increments or tire fills up with air and beeds don't flow as good. Much quicker then using vibrator, no dirty thinking please. 

And found a surprise under some loose paint, just one side other is solid

[AH64ID]

I have counteracts in both sets of truck tires and am very happy! 

 

I ran centramatics for a while too they are just as good. I only removed them because of issues on rotations with Les Schwab. They consider them a spacer and they won't touch anything with wheel spacers...  PITA, but whatever. My summer tires are 125lbs a piece and Schwab is 1 1/4 miles away, so I sold them. 

 

I still have centramatics on the TT and the tires wear better and the stuff inside doesn't move as much. 

[Dieselfuture]

I put about 500ml now, didn't feel any vibration. When I put them in I noticed some waights on inside were missing, maybe that's why I started to feel slight vibration. I like the idea of tires being balanced daily, like if you take a small chunk our on accident it will be alright. 

[AH64ID]

Yes the constantly updated balance is awesome. Tire balance points change as a tire wears so the weight should too. 

 

I have a friend with the same 19.5's I do and it took him 3 attempts at a balance before he was happy and they still aren't quite as smooth as mine. 

[notlimah]

So if one decides to go with counteracts or centeamics, you'd just install either and then take off all wheel weights and that's that?

[AH64ID]

That's all there is to it. 

 

[War Eagle]

I also run 19.5s and use beads and am very happy with the ride.  I think I paid about 8 bux a tire for the beads.  You can't get a spin balance on a tire for that kind of money.

 

If you ever have a flat and have to open the tire up it means you replace the beads with new.

 

If you run the Centramatics you don't loose any weights if you have to remove the tire for repair or replacement.

 

I think Centramatics will run around $190 or so.

[Dieselfuture]

After I got done with tires,  I put new front abs sensors in and regressed my front wheel bearings. Pumped grease in through grease zerk and rotated bearing till it was clean then I used old vacuum and sucked all access grease out. Still have break abs light on, may have to go through several key cycles to get rid of it, if not then who cares it's still tite and greased. One sensor came out in 2 pieces. 

[trreed]

On 7/28/2017 at 3:51 PM, Dieselfuture said:

And found a surprise under some loose paint, just one side other is solid

Wait what was the surprise.  I'm not smart enough to find it

[BBHD]

Upper control arm?

[Dieselfuture]

8 hours ago, trreed said:

Wait what was the surprise.  I'm not smart enough to find it

Rust 

7 hours ago, BBHD said:

Upper control arm?

Yeap

And abs is still on so I think something is going on with front wheel bearings 

[trreed]

2 hours ago, Dieselfuture said:

10 hours ago, trreed said:

Wait what was the surprise.  I'm not smart enough to find it

Rust 

Ohhhhh. I'm so used to Minnesota vehicles I looked right past that! That rust isn't bad at all.  You still have paint on most of it!

Edited August 3, 2017 by trreed