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DieselD24

Oil Change

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So, she's due for an oil change here pretty soon. I would just like to get the community's opinion on which oil, oil filter, and fuel filter I should use. What do other on here prefer or use?She is my baby, I just want her runnin' in tip-top shape. :)Thanks!

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The consensus seems to be using Delo, Valvoline Premium Blue or Amsoil Synthetic for engine oil. I personally think they are all equal at over 20F. From 0-20F you start to see a little difference between the first 2 and the amsoil since those aren't synthetic. If your engine has to start in weather under 0F a lot, I would really consider synthetic oil.Oil filters seem to be the cummins brand fleetguards or stratapore. There are some other brands out there that are good. Fuel filters, I just use the NAPA Wix ones but maybe someone has more input on that.

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And here I was thinking about getting mobile1.

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Sorry about that, it was listed under maintenance, it being a maintenance question.

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this is a review of popular brands of diesel oils and how they rated in TDR's test: http://forum.mopar1973man.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=77 i run valvoline blue with the cummins "C" and Donaldson Endurance filters (ELF7349) they are more pricey, but filter the smallest particles. i have run fram,wix, and the walmart mopar filters in the past.

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I run a variety of oils, usually what I find on sale. My latest sale score is 12 cases of Valvoline Premium Blue the O'Rielly's had on sale recently. I used to use the Fleetguard Stratapore filters. They are great filters but cost about triple what a Baldwind filter costs when you buy them by the case. Baldwins makes great filters as well but at a MUCH lower cost.

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this is a review of popular brands of diesel oils and how they rated in TDR's test: http://forum.mopar1973man.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=77 i run valvoline blue with the cummins "C" and Donaldson Endurance filters (ELF7349) they are more pricey, but filter the smallest particles. i have run fram,wix, and the walmart mopar filters in the past.

Nice article guess :) I liked the analysis on the oils (and that DELO and ValvBlue came out on top :)) as well as his analysis on 3000,6000,10000,20000 miles oil changes. nice stuff

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I've been using Wally World oil and a NAPA gold filter. There are some oil filters which will not hold up the the oil psi put out by engine. they could burst and cause real problems. I use a strap wrench to remove and tighten the filter.

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i've been running the valvoline blue with a walmart cummins oil filter, and airdog fuel filter/water seperator. (but i'm running an airdog 100 lift pump) just my :2cents:

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That is very good information. I like that.Does anyone here perform oil analysis on their trucks?

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Price API Performance Category

$/gal. Oil # Brand/Description My Estimate Actual

Best

9.98 1 Cummins/Valvoline Premium Blue 15W40 CI-4 plus CI-4 plus

17.36 8 Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5W40 CI-4 plus CI-4 plus

21.89 12 Cummins/Valvoline Premium Blue Syn. 5W40 CI-4 plus CI-4 plus

9.98 13 Pennzoil Long Life 15W40 CI-4 plus CI-4 plus

10.88 14 Chevron Delo 400 15W40 CI-4 plus CI-4 plus

35.00 20 Red Line Diesel Synthetic 15W40 CI-4 plus CI-4

Good

10.36 2 NAPA Universal Fleet Plus 15W40 CI-4 CI-4

25.70 10 Amsoil 5W40 CI-4 CI-4 plus

13.51 15 Caterpillar DEO 15W40 CI-4 CI-4 plus

12.68 16 John Deere Plus-50 15W40 CI-4 CI-4

19.99 18 Lucas 15/40 Magnum 15W40 CI-4 CI-4

Satisfactory

9.68 3 Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W40 CI-4 plus CI-4 plus

7.68 5 Wal Mart Super Tech Universal 15W40 CI-4 CI-4

9.52 6 Castrol GTX Diesel 15W40 CI-4 CI-4

9.52 7 Motorcraft Super Duty 15W40 CI-4 plus CI-4 plus

9.99 19 Pilot Premium HD 15W40 CI-4 CI-4

12.00 21 LiquiMoly Diesel Special 15W40 CI-4 CF-4

Ho-Hum (least favorite)

10.96 4 Shell Rotella T Triple Protection 15W40 CJ-4 CJ-4

27.55 9 Amsoil Premium Synthetic 5W40 CJ-4 CJ-4

10.80 11 Castrol Tection 15W40 CJ-4 CJ-4

12.99 17 Chevron Delo 400 LE 15W40 CJ-4 CJ-4

TECHNICAL TOPICS . . . . Continued

Satisfactory

HOW ABOUT MY 6.7-LITER ENGINE….

If you have a 6.7-liter ’07.5 Turbo Diesel truck it is recommended

that you use a CJ-4 lube oil. Why? Again, issue 54’s article has the

reason behind CJ-4 oils.

“The EPA tightened their exhaust emissions thumbscrew on diesel

engines starting January 1, 2007, to reduce particulate matter

(PM) and oxides of Nitrogen (NOx) emissions. To meet these

requirements most diesel engine manufacturers are resorting to

the use of diesel particulate fi lters (DPFs). A DPF differs from the

catalytic converters we have used for years on gasoline engines in

that a DPF actually fi lters the entire diesel exhaust stream.

“On the surface you wouldn’t think this would be a big deal—

Europeans have been using DPFs for years. The difference is that

Europeans don’t accumulate mileage like Americans and they will

tolerate much more frequent service intervals. Our EPA has decreed

that the new DPFs must go 150,000 miles before needing removal

for cleaning. This means the soot collected in the DPF must be

burned off in the exhaust system frequently if trap life is to exceed

150,000 miles without removal and cleaning.

“I don’t have to tell you that diesel exhaust is relatively dirty.

It consists of lots of soot (that’s what turns your oil black) and

unburned residues from both the fuel and the oil. Sulfur in the

fuel can signifi cantly hamper DPF performance. That’s why ultra

low sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel was introduced in the fall of 2006.

Phosphorus and sulfur in the lube oil can shorten DPF cleaning

intervals considerably. Phosphorus (P) can ‘glaze over’ and plug

the tiny holes in the DPF, making the openings effectively smaller

and quicker to plug. Sulfur can ‘mask’ the DPF, making it temporarily

less effective. Sulfated Ash (SA) in the lube is thought to build up

deposits on the DPF over time. These deposits that originate from

diesel fuel and lube oil then make the DPF effectively smaller and

quicker to plug.”

WOW! I did not no there were 2-different types of DELO on the market:shrug:..i just changed my oil w/Delo i bought from Advance auto...Its the" LE" version..oh..he$$...

what about the Delo at WAL-MART

Richie

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You do learn something everyday.

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I use fleetguard filters and Rotella T Full Synthetic oil...works good for me and is rated up to around 10k miles with this filter setup I believe.

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this is a review of popular brands of diesel oils and how they rated in TDR's test: /downloads.php?do=file&id=77">http://forum.mopar1973man.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=77 i run valvoline blue with the cummins "C" and Donaldson Endurance filters (ELF7349) they are more pricey, but filter the smallest particles. i have run fram,wix, and the walmart mopar filters in the past.

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Where do you get your oil filters from? Local store or web?

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Okay, I'm confused...Is the Cummins Fleetguard filter the same as the Stratapore, or are they 2 different filters?Or, is the word "Stratapore" an upgrade?

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Fleetguard makes 2 filters. The stratopore ones are LF3894. I get mine at Cummins. Geno's can mail you some too.

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WOW! I did not no there were 2-different types of DELO on the market:shrug:..i just changed my oil w/Delo i bought from Advance auto...Its the" LE" version..oh..he$$...

what about the Delo at WAL-MART

Richie

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Hey guys I manage a NAPA and they have Premium Blue on sale untile march 31st for $9.99/gal and the extreme 5w40 for $19.99 as for filters the good NAPA gold #1607 is a great oil filter and #3585xe (extreme eficency) is a great fuel filter.

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from what I understand is it will work in your cummins but maybe I would call tech support and ask

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Sad to say but because of the 6.7L engines and the low sulfur emission (crap) engine oils have to be reduced in sulfur content as well so all oils are switching to CJ-4 standard and the CI-4 standard will soon disappear. Like here in Idaho/Oregon The Delo LE (Low Emissions) CJ-4 is the only thing on the shelf most times.

I also didn't realize that Delo came in different levels and got the LE stuff, looks like in Oregon I may be stuck with a LE oil no matter what I use.:banghead:

First change I used a Purolator filter, but noticed the return holes to be smaller than the Cummins/Mopar that it replaced. I had also read to fill the filter before installing (takes a full QT.). It was nice to see the pressure come up quickly on startup.:)

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I also didn't realize that Delo came in different levels and got the LE stuff, looks like in Oregon I may be stuck with a LE oil no matter what I use.:banghead: First change I used a Purolator filter, but noticed the return holes to be smaller than the Cummins/Mopar that it replaced. I had also read to fill the filter before installing (takes a full QT.). It was nice to see the pressure come up quickly on startup.:)

Remember to fill the filter on the 'in' side or you'll get that bit of unfiltered oil going into your engine. Might not be a big deal but it's not that hard to do and then you can have peace of mind.

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Always prime the filter, always!

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