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2nd Generation Dodge 24 Valve Powertrain

This is a discussion forum of the 1998.5 to 2002 2nd Generation Dodge Ram Trucks with 5.9L Cummins 24 Valve Turbo Diesel power train and drive line system. This includes all sub-system including wiring, fuel, oil, exhaust, air, transmission, computers and sensors.

  1. Started by jlwelding,

    Are these pics normal? The crossover tube have a brown rust look to them whats up with that? The fuel line where it conects to the tube looks to have a sealer on it or something, the pics didnt come out good but you can see something there. This motor is a total virgin , never had a wrench to it except the water pump. So what ever that stuff is on the top of the tube came from the factory that way.The owner told me the truck set for about 10 months after his uncle died then he drove it for about a year then wrecked it about 1 month ago. When I looked at it the bare metal hadnt even started rusting yet so I know it didnt set long till I got it. What do yall think.

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  2. Started by stevens cummins,

    ok heres the case after my recent lift pump failure i have decided to save up an hopefully invest in i fass fuel system prob a fass 95 my question now is with this system my concerns are the pick up tube and stock filter housing does the kit come with the filter housing to vp big line also are these kits effictive with the factory pickup tube and stock filter housing or are they too restrictive to support the 600 hp they say the pump will support

  3. Started by 98whitelightnin,

    When I park on level ground or nose uphill its been turning over about 2 seconds or so no matter how long it sets. If I park nose downhill it starts imediatly like it always has. What is the best way to find my culprit? I dont see any wet spots anywhere but my fuel line is about 5 years old and looksdry rotted in some places but its not wet either. The teflon tape on the bottom threads of my needle valve was a little discolored so I replaced it with new and it fired up imediatly but its nose down hill too. - - - Updated - - - It also runs just as smooth as always, no miss at idle or anything.

  4. Started by olred92,

    My truck has done it twice now. The other night I started it to go to town and it took three times cranking to start and they were long cranks like 15-20 seconds. notice that my WTS light was not on so I thought it was just the cold air cause it was 20 degrees outside. It started fine all other times that night. Started it to go to town again today and it did the same but WTS was on and it was 51 degrees today. I believe that the fuel system is losing prime. Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this. I will go out in a couple hours and see if it takes overnight or if it will do in a few hours. Truck has been sitting for almost three hours now.

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  5. Started by Doubletrouble,

    I want to begin to upgrade my fuel system, truck is stock for the most part (see sig) but does have a FASS ddrp lift pump. What I'd like to do is relocate the pump to the frame near the tank with a relocation kit and run a big line kit from the tank to pump, pump to filter housing and then filter to VP44. Can I do this in steps? Such as filter to VP first, then relocate pump and run the rest of the big lines at that time? Or should I just accumulate the parts and do it all at once? Will I also need a draw straw with this setup? Also, will the larger lines decrease pressure? I'm not a fluid expert but I would think larger lines would increase volume but possibly lower over…

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  6. Started by cummins414,

    I am going to be running an AirDog 150. I'm going to retain my stock fuel filter due to the fact that I live in the norther states and a fuel heater really helps. my questione is i can get a Big Line kit from Vulcan from the fuel filter to the IP, it comes in 3/8" or 1/2" lines, I'm wondering which would be better for me? I'm thinkingthe 1/2"?

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  7. I just joined the forum back a couple of weeks with the intention of giving back as I've been a lurker for a couple of years. I am preparing for a fuel system upgrade and gauge installation. Here is the list of components I will be installing in the next couple of weeks:DTT Assassin Mechanical Fuel Pump (3/8" lines)Vulcan VP MAX Dual Remote Filter Kit (20um water separator and 3um filter)ISSPRO EV2 Electronic Gauges w/ A-Pillar 3 gauge mount (Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Boost)Block Heater (I know nothing to do with fuel system, but while the truck is down might as well get it done before winter hits)A little background on the motivation for the upgrade. I bought my 2000 back …

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  8. Started by Matt0matic,

    I'm wanting to redo the fuel system on my '83 F250 with Cummins. Right now it is only using one of it's two 19 gallon tanks, the front tank. I'd like to replace the rear tank with a drop in replacement 38 gallon; and, would it be worth while to add a sump to the new 38 gallon tank? Picture of a 38 gallon installed I was thinking of adding a typical billiet $$$$ diesel sump to the lowest point in the tank pictured or using a formed steel sump more common in drag racing applications. http://www.jegs.com/i/Jegster/550/40793/10002/-1?parentProductId=747210 My second question is which lift pump should I be looking at? I never plan on making big power, r…

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  9. Hi Guys! 1st want to say a BIG THANK-YOU to all RE the Timbo, new alternator etc! Running well, but low fuel pressure at VP44. So dropped the tank and found the bottom of the "module" screens were clogged. Local Dealer has no parts other than New In-Tank pump system, and recommended gentle cleaning with a soft tooth brush and brake cleaner fluid. While Gently cleaning the the bottom screens, the top one ripped. My wrench guy removed the little spring unit that seemed to fit between the screens. (I think I said that right.) We then put the new float level unit on and after cleaning the bottom screen, re-attached it. But He did not p…

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  10. Started by 015point9,

    2001...replaced fuel tank with pre 1999 tank, I’m not sure exactly what year donor was. On the inside of the (newer) 2001 tank, where the fuel goes in there is a 4 or 5 inch spout that deflects fuel just a little bit to the rear of tank. Pre 1999 tank does not have this spout inside of tank. Parts manual shows tank is used by gas and diesel models. Other minor differences …hose size, where hoses go into tank and different thread on gas cap. Question 1 Any ideas as to why OEM wants fuel diverted a bit to rear of tank? Wondering if I'm missing anything of real importance?

  11. Started by Gamble,

    I have not even began to locate my problem, but its pouring the rain so I thought I would get ideas from you guys in the meantime. I was working on my jeep down at a friends house last night, had about 3/8 tank of fuel and after sitting on a steep hill for a few minutes, both running and not. When I returned to my truck it was showing low fuel light and gauge was down past empty. I of course checked to make sure I had not had a leak or fuel line come off and I did indeed still have fuel. I thought it might have been just because of sitting on the hill, but the gauge remained below empty and light on for the entire 35 mile ride home, and I stopped to put about 10 more …

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  12. Started by Greenlee,

    I'm having fuel pressure issues on the 1999 24v. The pressure drops and you have to readjust the Raptor lift pump to correct it. When I bought this truck the VP44 went out in the first 2 weeks. I removed the electric lift pump from the tank but never removed the check valve that is on the suction line side about 3/4s of the way down the module. I watched a YouTube video explaining that when you eliminate the lift pump in the tank you need to make modifications. The check valve is part of it and should be removed. Has anyone else ran into this or has had fuel pressure dropping and it has to be adjusted back up again? Any opinions on a G&R sump for the bottom of the tan…

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  13. Started by Ryuronich,

    When it gets cold my fuel tank is pressurizing. u can here it hiss out of the rollover valve and when u take the cap off u get a wosh of air. it only does it when its cold whats going on?

  14. Started by Dumb A,

    02 ram 3500 5.9 Cummins. When I remove the fuel cap the tank releases pressure, is this normal? I looked for a breather for the tank but didn't find one. What I did find on the fuel module was a suction, return and capped 5/16 port. I removed the cap and attached a hose to it then blew into the tank. I could hear bubbling so I figure this is a auxiliary suction port? Dose this tank have a vent? If so where is it located. The reason for these questions is I feel it has a starting issue. In the morning, cold start, WTS, crank crank crank, short start and dies. Ignition off, back on, WTS, crank crank crank, starts and runs fine. This is 90% of the time. When warm crank crank…

  15. Started by 015point9,

    Is there supposed to be any type of padding or protection between the metal strap that holds fuel tank in place and the fuel tank? Front strap is held in place by a metal bracket that strap goes into. Metal bracket is bent …trying to figure out if it was bent on purpose, to prevent strap from falling off…just in case strap ever came loose or is bracket bent from road debris? Figure 14-110 in parts manual doesn’t show anything between strap and tank , but maybe some type of protection a good idea? (My old Ford had something like gunny sack material between tank and strap. I replaced with a rubber inter-tube. But tank was from late 80's with a…

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  16. Started by Hutch24v,

    @Mopar1970man - Was looking at one of your YouTube vids on some of your iQuad numbers and you mentioned on the phone to me earlier that your fuel and intake air are practically equal - or chasing each other as you said it in the vid. How are you achieving this? And is this any correlation to optimizing MPGs? My operating fuel temp is always higher than my intake air temp, probably 20-30 degrees higher if memory serves. They never get that close. Curious on others out there what they see.

  17. Started by xmtysonxm,

    Where does the EJWA pick up the fuel temperature? I hadn't driven my truck for 2 days and went to start it up this morning. It was 32 degrees outside and the fuel temp was showing 41 degrees. After a few mins of idle and scraping the windows I started driving and the temp was showing 64 degrees. Is this read from the fuel in the VP44?

  18. Started by 015point9,

    Any advantages to knowing what your fuel temp is? If so, where is best spot to install sensor? Thanks

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  19. Started by 015point9,

    What Fuel temps are you folks seeing? I want to use 1/4 inch air line left over from putting in air bags. Going to install a test port off a Airdog DF-100. Tubing also known as "Air brake" line. Which is nylon I believe. Best I can see online nylon tubing starts to fall apart around 200 degrees? I have 190 or 195 thermostat. Tubing is stamped SAE j844. Well with in psi but not sure about temps. Any body know what fuel temps we are dealing with?

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  20. Started by wagntagn,

    I set up a FASS pump last year and used the power for my original transfer pump to energize my new relay for the FASS,so the truck died on me yesterday the transfer pump quit,I switch the fuel system relay,engine control fuses no luck still didn't have power,I got it going again by running a wire on a switch straight from the battery to energize my FASS relay and it works fine for now as long as I don't forget to turn it on or off,in the service manual it shows a 10 amp fuse run/start just can't find it could that be the cause?

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