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I have CPP's 60" bolt on traction bars, work great, no more axle wrap for me. However I highly do not recommend buying from them anymore!

I'm running blistens - shocks and stabilizer and a DOR complete steering setup all heim joints. Solid as a rock, last to do is the gear box. Love the setup!

Thought I'd make another little one for this. Doing some diag and upkeep and stuff from other thread this weekend and came across this... So I can turn key on, visually see needle on gauge move 0-5 psi, next do a key bump and it shows nothing, no matter how any times I try key bump. I removed fuel line from vp44 and into a bucket. Performed key bump again, fuel flows out great fills up a gallon pail and then some. When truck is started gauge shows 15psi even while driving. I also have a spring kit from FASS to increase pressure just a tad. However I have never seen more than 16psi, only sits at 15. Idk why that is??? Stock is around 15, I was hoping for 17 ish... New vp44 came with a new overflow valve, could that be failing or failed causing this? I'm not sure what else it would be. Fass has flow but can't build any pressure maybe another idea, should still have warranty on it. Any thoughts?

No haven't tried that. I thought about seeing if I could get it re flashed,but I wanna make sure they will put my 3 cylinder high idle and high idle back on cause most won't... I mentioned to moparman that maybe there is a "tune" latched to it still from PO that he forgot, or forgot to tell me? Idk anything is possible. If there is any video or whatever I can make or provide let me know. Currently still at the provided: 15, 19, 25, 28, 30 The 90 up canbus fuel curve 2*, 5*, 50%, 2*, 28% (or 30%) Edit: I just thought of an old buddy that might be able to re-flash mine or possibly loan me one to test, I'll contact him today and check...

This is true, you make a valid point and completely see where your coming from. Probably very true and makes common sense 🤣 I'm not a young kid or an old fart yet, I'm right in the middle and still would like a little play time, I think alot can attest to that lol. I really think I would have a hard time selling my turbo, just don't know anyone and fb market place you get all kinds of riff raff from there; injectors I could prolly keep till down the road perhaps. I know I don't need what I got, I tried to make it better by getting smaller all NEW pump, lines, tubes, injectors and thought I'd be golden... not so much at the moment... I guess best case scenario I'd like to (make it work) best as possible till I can find a way/save up for twins and save what little money I have for that goal, whether it makes sense or I'm off my rocker idk. If I knew what an "acceptable" egt # would be that might help. Everything seems fine otherwise. Timing (might be a smidge high?) Or I have lifter knock, or what kinda sounds like valve or valve train knock, idk. Its very light though. Gets up and a scoots however! But 900 and 1000* just worries me @ cruise that is... There gain I could have bad injectors once more...dribbling or maybe that's the knock hmm 🤔

I went from the .093 lines and tubes back to stock... started with a DF pump, .093 lines and tubes, 6x18's, same turbo, cam, etc. Tried 6x18, 7x15, 6x13. Long story on all of it... now it's stock pump, lines, tubes, all new... 5th or sixth set of injectors from dap (new 6x13). Sig is up to date. That's the problem, I can't get it right. Been taking suggestions as they come, I'm just can't get the hang of all this via reading, I need taught via hands on and explanations... Just friggin difficult. I've tried only 65mph max every day, easing into the pedal, trying to get some mpg and egts down and level but it just isn't happening. Just better than What I've previously had and it's still the same.....

Well I had to try it lol but not even close. Truck barely moved haha. Back to the other one now. I don't think buying another turbo and another set of injectors is a smart idea, to then turn around and buy another turbo or 2 at a later date then have a turbo and injectors set just sitting around that I really didn't want or need in the first place. Just my take on it. I'd rather figure out how to make this one work till further upgrades can be had. So maybe I'll have to deal with egts above 600 idk. The other day there was a light head wind and I was 950-1050 all the way into town! If the quad is supposed to help and manage things to an extent and I can't get anything I'm needing that's it's supposed to do, maybe I'm on my 7th set of bad injectors??? Does anyone else have a similar setup and get better than 12 mpg and lower than 800-900 egt's cruising?? Sorry for the rant, just getting more irritated again that I can't seem to get this figured out and I'm frustrated. It's funny, I don't really remember my previous setup which was an insane amount of fuel ever getting hot as it does now 1400-1500* not even trying lol.

Gonna plug all that in here before I leave and test it out. Timing and fuel.

It seemed fine to me, like I was saying the boost numbers seem low to me, smidge of smoke through 3rd and 4th, not clouding out the intersection though. I think the obvious hindrance is the turbo spool down low, cause it's laggy up untiiiiiiillllllllll 2,000 rpm lol Engine supposedly has a Hamilton cam, can't 100% confirm but I assume it's there. Got a BD intake horn, and no grid heater going into the plenum Yall got me really wanting to throw some money at 2 turbos right now... That's gonna be expensive!! Anyone want a 64/71/14 ?🤣 (Wastegate works ust can't hook it up on mine)

Yes I knew they where big, just thought it was a better option than 6x18 haha... I guess I need to start figuring out/learning twins?!?! Daily play truck? I can live with it! 2k is indeed the area where it hits. However, I'm only hitting boost in the 30-40 psi range right now... not enough fuel yet?? Edit: I reference (only 30-40) just due to what I used to get with it. It could peg a 60 psi gauge... I think 70 mph is a good number for hwy cruise. In my wife's car it's 75 for all the interstate driving lol. I currently have only been driving/testing @ 65mph for all this. I'd rather 75 but let's face its got 4.10's....

Great stuff here! Yea PO said he pulled some with it, don't know class, but it is what it is at this point. So I didn't start working with the most street friendly stuff, now it's alot better from what I had, so on the bright side there's progress... Don't hate me for this but right now it's just a daily driver, didn't expect 20mpg or anything crazy, just something better than 6x18 and DF pump churnin ponies... So basically Id like a decently fun daily driver, don't think I'll get any better than that out of 6x13's... I may randomly tow here and there, kinda rare, but things can change, so tow tune can come later. If could get 15mpg that would be a huge jump, and cruise 600* egt would be a nice. Any better than that--icing on the cake! I'll try this fuel curve now about to head home. I agree with @LorenS little tidbits like he mentioned would be great to keep on hand.

I didn't think ot would be but I wanted to double check. Maybe at some poontoon I could save for compounds... Ive always really wanted to put some in...I think re-gearing is the next big step possibly. So I'm prolly just worried to much when i shouldnt be , running 750-850 cruising on the hwy.

Well @Mopar1973Man with what @Me78569 has put together tune wise, I am at 21.5-22* cruise timing. That should suffice correct? Im not sure what to mess with next really. I know this isnt a tow tune but from what I have now I cant imagine what temps will be with a trailer behind it. Just tossing out ideas, what kinda littler/ cheap turbo could I put with it to help out? Or if its even worth talking about with this turbo... And I freaking keep forgetting to make the thread for the wastegate.

I put canbus fuel back to 90%+1 and run that again with all same settings I guess. Last time I tried all three setups 70, 90, 100 starting and it really didn't make a difference egt wise, little higher with the 100 but pretty close. Is 700-800 an acceptable temp for me? Maybe I'm hoping for to much? Fyi Just filled up, ~ 13 mpg... The 90% doesn't smoke bad at all starting out/ getting on it. The cruise temps is what I'm focusing on, is that the best way to go about it?

No matter if I choose 90% +1, or starting at 70%+ 2%, seems to still run and average hot, 700 -750 ish. I have like 3 or 4 spots that have a short section of flat, rest of it varies very slightly but makes my egts jump extremely quickly. So egts is my only complaint so far, smoke output is really good - 100 times better. Still has a haze though when taking off or building back speedfrom a down shift etc - not black haze however... I've tried to move max load up or down one, timing reduct up or down one, and of course the canbus fueling at 70 & 90, but haven't really seen any changes that I can notice.

Here is some data logging from this morning, short snippet cruising to work and the other should be pedal to the floor 2nd and up. Boost numbers are low though? Lack of fuel? Cruise Temps were 700* plus this morning coming into work... iQuad-2022-04-04-05.07.32-146142643.csv iQuad-2022-04-04-05.00.141743032035.csv

Well truck does alot better with a closed wastegate! 630-670* at cruise is my rough average so far. This is with 90% canbus plus 1% up. 100% and 1% up is about 650-690* at cruise. Very light smoke 2nd and 3rd on normal take off, that's fine. While cruising I usually hover 750-850* due to minor road fluctuations very slight inclines this truck catches them really quick... Getting on the interstate it hits average 1100* really quick but alot better with closed WG. I should have my first tank of fuel gone through with this tune, this week. If I can 15mpg I'd be happy lol. Trucks never seen such thing. Possible unrealistic wish list: Stay under 1000* majority of the time passing or on ramp. 16-18mpg mild-daily driver Room too add a tid bit more fuel for a playful weekend trips to town. I'm gonna make another thread for alternate wastegate options I believe. I'll update through the week.

Ahh those plastic ones are fine. I got a new set plus new cables sittings in the pile from when I thought I could put a bed on my truck... Plus plastic moves/slicker easier than rubber 🤣

I use the Bluetooth connection for mine... Don't guess it makes a difference really.

I'm pretty sure mine are the vulcans from DAP. Goodstuff so far, recommended 😁

Well I'd like to use what I got, add on to or what ever if that's the case. These are new injectors, and freshly rebuilt turbo. If I could find a CHEAP turbo and oil Iines for compounds I could prolly build my own piping... It's a dream currently lol. The boss might not approve of TWO turbos lol. @Me78569 I'm assuming your talking about the "old" tune 2* max load 5* timing reduct 50% scale 2* cruise And the latest timing 15, 19, 25, 28, 30 90% + 1% canbus fueling Honestly I'm still trying to wrap my head around the tuning parts. Like which way do i move what on what to start? Like a flow chart for kids It all really really intrigues me, but it's confusing at times! I still need to educate myself more on the data logging and figuring out how to graph it all cause that's just neat! And right up my OCD alley

Well, I have to look like a jack a$$, eat crow, so the walk of shame...... Pulled truck in the shop before leaving leaving work, going to wire the WG shut. WG rod was hanging there! Broke or unthreaded... I just wired it shut so I could get home. Shook my head the whole way home.... I wouldn't say it's been like that the whole time, and honestly hard to really catch in the scheme of things. I'm glad it was mentioned and caught. That rod was just dragging on the oil drain no way I could go that route again so options needed. Best idea I could think of was WG rotated inside its housing along with vibrating on the drain and came loose? Idk, here nor there, this is where I'm at... Here's driving home, 90% +1%, same timing and all. This is from the gas station home, on ramp to interstate, short flat area, long down hill and up hill, then I goosed it a bit on the back road home. It was raining pretty good too so that didn't help. iQuad-2022-03-30-05.46.471650855078.csv Still not the best but better than what I had. I believe there's room for improvement here. I only hit 35 psi on the little side road romp, kinda low I'd say... So feeling like a jack wagon I have to ask where do I go from here? -New WG idea -timing and other influential -cheap twins, New turbo

Thats not a bad idea. just dont get crazy with it haha... I have never wired one shut, might be self explanatory but I assume just wrap from wire around the shaft some how and tie it off to something close by...Something on the engine.

Before I put it back on I tested all that and it did work. Now with it on the truck and all hooked up, I checked it all again maybe 2 months ago and it did move back and forth. I tried to set it to open at 40 the first time then 50 the second time just as a starting point. The rod in my opinion (never really like it to begin with) didn't move like it should do to the clearance issue with it attached to the actuator, with it unhooked yes it moves freely, if anything problems would be actuator or the rod clearance I believe. I will add to list for today to recheck movement and psi, maybe Ill try a video...

I completely understand, but this is only for me trying to find out a daily tune that it fuel and egt friendly. After that is confirmed then I can adjust and make a fun play tune. * If I'm understanding correctly what your meaning? Lol, either or constructive criticism is good in any aspect of learning Just for informational purposes, here's pics before I cleaned up and rebuilt turbo and install the dap drain line; to get an idea of what have while we consider wastegate being a culprit. If there's a different option, I'm in!