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Got the injectors in, no hard starts as this this morning, and no pinging/knocking. Now I can get back to tuning lol. So with the excel spreadsheet for tuning, how do you send file to your iquad/device -tablet in my case? It doesn't work via email and can't get blue tooth to work. And to get a new tune on the sheet when I clicked the link in the thread for a blank one I can't open it. Something not jiving...

Genos garage has caps for a good price. I actually just got one from them too.

The only thing that really changed was me tweaking the wastegate shaft. I tried re-adjusting it but it didn't help.

That pretty neat... Yea I'd like to just rid of the waste gate honestly, it was proll getting weak to begin with plus new drain line etc and having to modify things, I don't think it's fully operational. I used to be able to peg a 60 psi gauge now it shows its only going to 40 and holding on my mechanical gauge. That's why I'm looking for different ideas on this, never really had to mess with waste gates other than adjustment. Talked to DAP for a bit yesterday, gonna send another new set of injectors out today, I'll get them Fri and installed. The drivability/pull/ just feel of the engine after new was awesome but slowly lessened (they have a machine that eliminates this "break in" issue ) then now it sounds like a ping/miss/knock with rough idle and smoky again, #3 & # 5 you can really feel the pulse in the lines and cracking them somewhat changed noise but not as prominent as previous experience. The second set was same injectors I had ordered originally just rebuilt this 3rd set will be a new set, possible inherent issue with ones I had both times. That's my rant/update for this morning. Now back to work lol.

Well drove it home with new tune didn't really play with it or get on it... I got a miss or knock coming from injectors I think. Hard starts cold or hot - progressively got worse. Today it was knocking pretty decent and scared me so I took it easy home. I'll have to get in touch with dap again.... So that homemade boost deal you made looks interesting. How did you get rid of the wastegate and that operation? Is there any pre-made things like that?

I definitely appreciate the input! This is done and I'll try it out on the way home along with the other recommendations. Yea, I have no idea on the pump. It prolly will remain a mystery!?!? I tried to make it smooth from what ever it was 85 on up maybe a little more jump towards the higher end, if I'm understanding you right. So you suggest starting at say 100 at 0-5 psi then add 2 on top everyone and at 20 psi add 4 on top? According to my "manual" boost gauge I roughly in the (3-9 psi) ish range just cruisin. Just for reference. Another thing I have to address, I have the common issue of the wastegate hitting the turbo oil drain line (DAP- stainless braided line kit), and as suggested slight bend in the rod to clear etc. Well I massaged everything to where it functioned so I thought when I first got it together, during that time I never saw that much boost always stopping at 40psi so I tried to adjust it but no luck. So is there maybe a different style wastegate or something to go in it's place? Posted at the same time, thought I'd add. So as I mentioned above start at 100 in my normal cruise range 3-9 ish then add 2 on top till 20 psi then add 4 on top till max. This would be a good daily tune to start with I'm assuming.

It should be a picture above with what I set it to... I just have a fear of the timing being way off

By the way it doesn't run good at all. Lol I've tried a few different things but nothing works on this one or the other one I sorta threw together. I guess I knew before I bought it,, but kinda disheartening buying something and not knowing how to use it or "build it" or even getting to use it really.

Well here's what I have right now. Still re-reading everything and trying to make something work. You really have to work for this programmer lol... I feel like I don't have enough fuel, truck doesn't really smoke that much at all which is good but I'd like to have more fuel and smoke to start then dail it back to perfection. All these settings still just leave me mind boggled... Be gentle this is my first one and I have no friggin clue what to really do haha

So the power levels... so you make your tune how you want it then the levels in that tune ex. 0-11 etc that basically 0-stock, 1-valet then just progressively adds everything (timing/fuel) to the max of what your/that specific tune is?? Do I set it to zero on default for just stock/nothing then data log (I guess it does it automatically or continuously) to see what timing I'm running before adding? Maybe that might clue on what pump I have??

I 2nd Geno's!

Go and get a complete DOR (dodgeoffroad) steering kit with hiem joints all around. You won't look back, my entire front end is from them and it's solid as a rock. Highly highly recommend DOR stuff! Imo the best you could possibly get, and the price is justifiable.

I also would vote on just getting a auto part store on. Oriellys, Napa etc. That's what I've always had/used. Worked great, I couldn't justify spending that much for the mishimoto right now

I'll prolly have to do that... That makes sense. No go on the cool side lol... I might as well use it for my oil since I have it all and get a Trans temp setup down the road. I'm about to drill into the manifold for that other sensor, grease and a vacuum...

Yea I know some of what yall are talking about but some not so much lol. Still trying to wrap my brain around this, prolly will take a long while.... prolly would be easier if it was face to face going through all of it ya know... In another note has anyone ran the temp sensor that comes with it to a manual trans instead of an auto? I have fast coolers so I have a port available. Going also attempt to add a second Pyro in the manifold for the quad also.

The more videos and reading I do here, I keep feeling more and more over my head It's definitely alot to take in. OCD & ADD is definitely not a good combo with this Where do I start with pump unknowns and injectors? Follow the same guidlines in the tuning article here?? With each tune you make what's each power level within that tune? I'm just running on stock tunes and it helps alot but definitely not what it should be. Timing is off for sure due to obvious signs and fuel seems low, and since I have low gearing most of my driving is in higher rpms which sucks and stock stuff comes in really early. I'd like prolly the most common 3 tunes to start with. Daily, Race, Tow.

Well after working through several issues as yall know I was finally able to get myself a quadzilla adrenaline. I got it installed this afternoon and have it on default settings it came with and just kept bumping it up just messing around only made it to 7 till I got home, kinda scary... and no smoke-kinda expected alot since these huge injectors...? I guess, who can help me paid or unpaid 😁 get something setup for everything in my sig but note the pump may or may NOT be a dragonflow, this is still a mystery. Now to go try and school myself on how to get things setup, power levels, different profiles etc... so much to do!

You can get just a boost fooler module - plug and play - for pretty cheap. Tweets aka twins/ twin turbos/ one big turbo and one small turbo. If you tow alot I highly recommend it, I guess either way it's a good choice for twins... 62/68/12 is turbo size. 62mm compressor inlet 68mm turbine outlet 12mm exhaust housing size Anything bigger than a 62mm your kinda stepping into a different class so to speak. More power more mods and sometimes not towing friendly if not correctly spec'd out. I would also second the suggestion of a 62/68/12 and 90 hp or 125's with quadzilla programmer. Of you didn't have exhaust I'd recommend 4in but since you already have 5in it would be silly to spend the extra to change. If you have the funds go twins and studs and add to list and maybe slightly bigger injectors.

I wouldn't buy used injectors for 500$.... DAP has just about any size you could want for 600$ new, with your cores obviously. I'm a fan of the super bee and super bee special turbos but they might be a little big for you. Tons of options on turbos, I'm sure someone with a smaller setup will chime in with some good combo specs.

I can definitely see that! Do you have to have phone etc hooked up for data logging or does it automatically store? This is nice also! Do you need the phone to change preset tunes? Or is there like a mini module with couple of buttons for such?

Ahh ok, I think I have an old S8 that I could use. Scratched to hell but it'd work for now. I'll get to use the the fire starter outlet now lol. So with those 2 sensors it comes with do you need boost, fuel or anything else for mapping purposes? Obviously it could display all the vitals on the screen too if you had all the sensors, I already have mechanical gauge's but maybe it would nice to have it on a screen too?

That might be annoying to have to charge the phone or tablet everyday and find a good way to mount it ?

I was thinking you would have to get sensors, but what if u didn't? Don't you need those to map everything like I been seeing? Control with my phone? Does it not come with a display screen? Like led screen etc? This is obviously alot more than I've ever done, always had just a comp box lol.

Well been a bit since I posted, took forever to get injectors back from DAP. Was told same day turn around but after no contact I had to call next day, then same story it will be today, kept this going day after day till late the next week then they just showed up with no call or anything. Still have not got a response back like I was promised on what exactly happened to them @dieselautopower As of now it's running good again. Would like to know what happened to injectors. Lack of communication error on DAP's end...

Gonna prolly go ahead and get the quadzilla for my rig. Does the kit come with all sensors needed for monitoring or are they purchased separately? Or do I even need them? Does it come with a display screen? Just Kinda confused on what you get and what you need. I think there is a few threads on how to tune once I get it. I'll prolly have to ask then what would be best with current setup.