Possible Game Changer for lighting our trucks $211

[LorenS]

For those that don't have projector headlights, this looks like a fantastic option for LEDs.  Even shoots the heat into the housing to melt snow and ice!

https://www.morimotohid.com/morimoto-2-stroke-2stroke-h11-led-bulbs?quantity=1

 

Drat, wrong link.
Here's the 9004/9007 version:

https://www.morimotohid.com/morimoto-2stroke-2-stroke-9007-led-bulbs?quantity=1

Edited December 7, 2020 by LorenS

[Mopar1973Man]

I'd love to see it at about -20*F to -40*F to see if it holds up at all. My PIAA LED fog lights ($350) bury over easy. The My Morimoto D2S HID's ($750) will bury over at about -20*F in a snow storm. I'm pretty sure the 1996 Dodge will bury over quickly being there just average LED headlight bulbs ($70) and low heat production. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by Mopar1973Man

[LorenS]

Yes, I love my D2S conversion.  However, if these were available when I did mine, I'd likely have gone this route and carried some halogen bulbs if my luck ran out and I saw -40 any where other than a blast cooler in a pork plant.  Even colder in the ice cream tunnels, but thankfully we don't go in there when in operation!

[Mopar1973Man]

The only problem is all the newer lighting is lower wattage and produces very little heat being the efficiency is so high there is little radiant heat to keeping frost or snow off the lens. Where old school halogen bulbs had enormous amount of radiant heat but low ~850 lumens. Now we have bulbs that take fraction of current and efficient LED or HID bulbs that produce low heat and more light at 2,000 to 4,000 lumens. Like my PIAA LEDs require a 1 AMP fuse. Little heat there. 

[LorenS]

These would possibly be a silly choice for us with D2S projectors in snow country, but maybe down south they would make sense.
https://www.morimotohid.com/morimoto-d2s-2stroke-led-bulbs?quantity=1

[Mopar1973Man]

They still work awesome just if your in a heavy storm you going to stop and wipe them off once in awhile. Being where I live there is no real stopping at lights or stop signs to allow for heat to melts some off. My D2S projectors cast light up to full mile and at a 1/4 mile the arc upwards can engulf a 50 foot tree no problem. Good 20 to 50 feet off of both sides of the highway on a normal 2 lane.

[LorenS]

Something happened to my D2S projectors and I no longer am able to use high beams.  Of course I never think about it when I'm hanging out in the garage on a nice, only when I want to use them!  So I have not diagnosed the issue at all other than I did install a new silver matchbox controller device for an unrelated problem.  My turn signal stalk is fairly new (few years), so I must have a wiring/loose connection issue somewhere.

[dripley]

Imspent a long time looking at housings and bulbs before pulling the on what I have before dropping $110 on both. $ 211 for 2 bulbs was not in my future unless I could see how they perform. Got lucky on mine but $211 on bulbs is not in my future. Nice find but I am skeptical.

[LorenS]

 $211 on bulbs is not in my future

 

I pretty much said the same about hundreds of dollars for projectors until I consistently was driving hundreds of miles per week through rural Iowa, at night, during the rut!

[dripley]

59 minutes ago, LorenS said:

 $211 on bulbs is not in my future

 

I pretty much said the same about hundreds of dollars for projectors until I consistently was driving hundreds of miles per week through rural Iowa, at night, during the rut!

 See a lot of those miles myself. Still could not justify 500+ dollars for headlights. Call me crazy.

 

[LorenS]

13 minutes ago, dripley said:

 See a lot of those miles myself. Still could not justify 500+ dollars for headlights. Call me crazy.

 

No, certainly not crazy. Mine grew to that after trying a "cheap" fix. The guts of that system was about half of what I needed to go full projector.

 

If a guy already had clear housings, I think rhe D2S projectors I have can be put in for $350 plus the very easy work of modifying the housings.  If anything is difficult about the install it's figuring out the best mounting location for the brain box - the harness could be 9" longer and make it a breeze to install!

[That Guy]

I have tried to find them with no avail, but for class 8 trucks you can find heated headlights. Also in the old round and square sealed beam sizes.

 

https://www.grainger.com/product/52XE96?gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgQpnfF9jh-gCRYcPnLYa-djCJikx96RV4euYUIVSLUJ-F_O52rXjzBoCNeAQAvD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgQpnfF9jh-gCRYcPnLYa-djCJikx96RV4euYUIVSLUJ-F_O52rXjzBoCNeAQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!264955915823!!!g!438966557505!&gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:4P7A1P:20501231

 

I have seen the film sold separately, just never in the correct size. If one could find the film, it would be trivial to install on our lights. 3rd gen with the sphere shaped lights maybe not, but the 1st, 2nd, and 4th would be simple.

[AH64ID]

There is a benefit to low heat and cold snow, since the cold snow won't stick to the cold housing as easily as it would with a warm housing. 

 

When I look at aircraft icing, which is a much bigger deal than headlights since we can't pull over in the clouds, the general rule of thumb is that icing is most prominent at between 32°F and 14°F. It can occur as low as -4°F but that's less common. 

 

So if moisture is sticking to headlamps below -4°F it's due to the heat the headlamp is producing, and not the cold moisture.

 

I know a guy who spent a lot of his life trapping near Fairbanks. His favorite temp was -10°F in the winter because nothing sticks to you and you don't get wet. Snow/frost/etc is too cold and has too little moisture to stick or get you wet. His observations go pretty close to what we're taught in Aviation. 

Edited December 11, 2020 by AH64ID

[LorenS]

4 hours ago, AH64ID said:

icing is most prominent at between 32°F and 14°F

This has got to be 70% of the winter in KC. 28% above 32, and 2% below 14. I'll take the heated lamps! Hopefully not heading near or north of I-90 this winter... Knock on wood.

[AH64ID]

11 hours ago, LorenS said:

This has got to be 70% of the winter in KC. 28% above 32, and 2% below 14. I'll take the heated lamps! Hopefully not heading near or north of I-90 this winter... Knock on wood.

With moisture in the air it’s the same here. 
 

It’s funny how LED’s are cooler at the source of light, but much hotter at the connection due to the voltage regulation. Too bad that heat doesn’t make it into the housing. 
 

I did the LED swap on all my bulbs this fall. Love it! I used CSP Mini’s from GTR. No fan, no fitment issues (4th gen projectors are tight on low beam space), 2500lm each, and beautiful light patterns. I have the 9005 bulb in all 3 locations. 

[Me78569]

I am not a fan of the 2stroke from them.  I don't like moving parts of that nature.

[Evan]

1972 was the last time idaho saw -20s

 

I have ounce seen -10s while driving. But normal temp like today is 17 mike might see 10is on a normal winter morning. 

 

Yes I have had halogens snowed over gota wipe em off everyone in awhile 

[Mopar1973Man]

18 minutes ago, Evan said:

1972 was the last time idaho saw -20s

 

Ummm... Better move north and check out the weather up here. Being subzero is common place in New Meadows. At least once a year you'll get a week of minus weather just about every year. Just a couple of days ago I just saw -2*F driving to New Meadows, ID.

[AH64ID]

This photo is at my house in Kuna. The temp got down to -28°F that night but this is the coldest I got a photo of. 

 

I’m almost always colder than Boise, and even downtown Kuna. This morning was 7° at my house and 17° when I got to work at the airport.

 

 

I’ve also seen temps in the -30°F range in Idaho in the last 15 years a couple times. Once on I-15 north of Dubois in December. The other elk hunting near Grace in Januay. 
 

Not all weather stations are at the coldest/hottest spots. 

 

That being said, I haven't been in any snow/ice storms anywhere near that cold. It's almost always very dry air at those temp. 
 

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by AH64ID

[Evan]

You guys are older than dirt must be 30years ago but seems like yesterday. 

 

Yes negatives are normal but not -20s

 

 

Thanks loren for bringing these bulbs to my attention. 

 

I blew a bulb last week luckily I had a spare.

 

My housing are junk. Gota decide on cheap replacement then order these bulbs.

 

Thanks