Dont know if this has been discussed here yet, but I thought its worth knowing about. I'd hate to see the rest of the world entertain this illogical logic.....

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38170794

Why?  Because your future is diesel, or you "are" the future of diesel, or diesel is your future, or you foresee something related to diesel in the future, or diesel "is" the future.....  The possibilities are endless.

We want to be like Europe. Why do we want to be different here? They seem to have all the answers. NOT.

10 hours ago, KATOOM said:

Why?  Because your future is diesel, or you "are" the future of diesel, or diesel is your future, or you foresee something related to diesel in the future, or diesel "is" the future.....  The possibilities are endless.

 I was thinking that diesel will be the way to go in future, efficiency, power, longevity etc. So yeah, I guess I was wrong as usual. They're going to have to pry my truck from my dead cold hands, just like my guns that will be protecting it 

40 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

They're going to have to pry my truck from my dead cold hands, just like my guns that will be protecting it 

 

Absolutely... 

What guns?  I don't own guns, they're dangerous  

Guns are not dangerous.  People with guns are dangerous. 

19 minutes ago, IBMobile said:

Guns are not dangerous.  People with guns are dangerous. 

 

I disagree with this statement....

 

I would say guns are not dangerous. Uneducated, untrained people with guns can be dangerous. 

A gun is no more than a "calibrated aperture" used to accelerate a self powered, self contained projectile at high velocity. People are the dangerous weapons 

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Guns are not dangerous.  People with guns are dangerous. 

Edited December 15, 20168 yr by Me78569

A .223 at 50 yards has about 1094 ft/lb's of force.

A truck at 60mph has about 392,000 ft/lb's of force.

A pencil has less than 1 ft/lb of force.

 

They're all as dangourous as the user.

23 hours ago, TFaoro said:

Uneducated, untrained people with guns can be dangerous

There for the educated, well trained people of the German and Japanese Armies in WW II had guns and were not dangerous?   

7 hours ago, IBMobile said:

There for the educated, well trained people of the German and Japanese Armies in WW II had guns and were not dangerous?   

That depends on which side you are on....

All I'm saying is, I prefer to be around someone who knows the "every gun is loaded" rule and has been taught how to handle / fire the weapon rather than a person with no education.

 

Like at school, there a former Marine in one of my classes (you'd never know though) and I've seen him with a concealed weapon. Most people don't see it, but I notice those things. It doesn't frighten me at all considering I know he knows how to handle the weapon properly. Now if I saw some nerdy kid with braces that struggles to pick up his backpack with a weapon, I would be concerned without knowing his education. 

18 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

Now if I saw some nerdy kid with braces that struggles to pick up his backpack with a weapon, I would be concerned without knowing his education

 

 

I might resemble that comment... Nerdy kid with braces. Yes, I was a light weight (in jr. high I weighed 118 pounds), thin as a rail, wearing braces and shooting .22 rifles.

 

I would have to say your comment is not valid...

1 hour ago, TFaoro said:

Like at school, there a former Marine in one of my classes (you'd never know though) and I've seen him with a concealed weapon. Most people don't see it, but I notice those things. It doesn't frighten me at all considering I know he knows how to handle the weapon properly. Now if I saw some nerdy kid with braces that struggles to pick up his backpack with a weapon, I would be concerned without knowing his education.

 

46 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I might resemble that comment... Nerdy kid with braces. Yes, I was a light weight (in jr. high I weighed 118 pounds), thin as a rail, wearing braces and shooting .22 rifles.

 

I would have to say your comment is not valid...

Because you only took part of my comment into consideration. I did say at my school (well not explicitly but it was definitely inferred), which is one of the top ranking engineering colleges in the nation. It's located in the city with some of the nerdiest little weirdos who need a safe space. 

 

Now if I was back home and saw that I wouldn't think twice. Tons of people have them hanging in the rear window of their vehicles and most are taught to handle them properly by their parents. 

I was never in the military. I never had training by my parents. I was taught by a good friend on the weekends and went out into the desert of California for target practice. I live near the worse neighborhoods that gang violence was common place and shootings. I could tell all kinds of stories of gang violence and shoot and weapons I've seen through my teenage years.

1 minute ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I was never in the military. I never had training by my parents. I was taught by a good friend on the weekends and went out into the desert of California for target practice. I live near the worse neighborhoods that gang violence was common place and shootings. I could tell all kinds of stories of gang violence and shoot and weapons I've seen through my teenage years.

 

And thus my point is proven  You were taught, and I'm sure I'd be comfortable around you with a weapon.

I highly doubt any gang members were trained in any fashion. They were probably just told to point and shoot. 

I don't know how this thread went from banning diesel to fire arm safety.     But I guess it could be related in a round about way.

 

I think any kid who even thinks about picking up a fire arm should complete an approved hunter ed class . Or at least have a qualified parent or mentor to start with the basics. I sat through the hunter ed class with my kids and my youngest just completed the online course and I even learn something  each time.  The online course was more in depth than the  class room course I was really impressed. I know thier  a lot of adults out thier that could use a refresher  course too. Anyway thier is just no exception when it comes to fire arm safety and responsibility.   But anyway back on topic.  Just venting  (lol). 

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Dang guys.....  Where did this thread go awry? 

And are any of "us" really arguing about this? 

We all know diesels are fantastic motors which are simply being targeted by the ongoing libtard EPA movement who simply want the impossible from society.....and if they cant get that then more money from taxpayers appears to suffice.

And we all also know that guns are not the problem but rather those who use them irresponsibly or with bad intentions.  If I thought there was a chance any members here didn't feel this way then I'd have reservations, but I know we are ALL a good bunch of peeps.

So stop the arguing and grab your pitchforks and torches.....

 

@KATOOM shush I want to see where this goes 

 

Edited December 16, 20168 yr by Me78569