Quadzilla V2 Custom Tunes

[903Dodge]

Maybe gross 7k. 

 

I don't think that is the log I was looking for. It may have to wait till I pull again. 

 

I have noticed since we updated my box that idle timing had went from 13 to 11 when truck is warmed up. 

 

I will I'll try to get a log for 60mph again so I can have something to compare it to. 

 

I still haven't seen cruise timing come in. 

 

 

[Me78569]

I see it in that log,  

 

Remember cruise timing is 17* + your setting at 2400 rpm.  So .5 = 17.5* timing at 2400 rpm, so at 1700 rpm 15* is pretty much spot on.  

 

 

[903Dodge]

It may not of started logging till later in the drive because I was playing with level 1 and seeing what it would do. Lol

[Me78569]

That log looks like lvl1 truthfully.  Thats the only way I can explain how you go WOT and canbus fueling doesn't increase at all. 

 

 

 

Helpful hint for getting your custom tune setup: ( learn this today actually lol) 

 

If you stop increasing canbus % when Wiretap comes on, Pump Low Boost Scale PSI:, for a psi before and after then the smoke related to wiretap coming in is greatly reduced.  I spent alittle time with my race tune today, starting % of 92, and I have only haze even as wiretap applies.  My race tune might actually turn into my dialy tune and my daily tune might actually turn into my emissions tune.

 

IE: 

 

Old Race Tune

Quote

 

Power Levels:6

 

Timing

Fuel Load Timing: 3 (Max load timing offset?)

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv: 2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 19

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26
 

Wiretap

Pump Stretch: 1800

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min: 15

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage: 0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 12

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3500

 

Power Reduction: 25

 

0 PSI %: 92

1 PSI %:  93

2 PSI %: 94

3 PSI %: 95

4 PSI %: 96

5 PSI %: 98

6 PSI %: 100

7 PSI %: 102

8 PSI %: 106

9 PSI %: 110

10 PSI %:114

11 PSI %: 118

12 PSI %: 122

13 PSI %: 126

14 PSI %: 130

15 PSI %: 134

16 PSI %: 138

18 PSI %: 142

20 PSI %: 146

22 PSI %: 148

24 PSI %: 150

26 PSI %: 150

28 PSI %: 150

30 PSI %: 150

 

To this tune
 

Quote

Power Levels:6

 

Timing

Fuel Load Timing: 3 (Max load timing offset?)

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv: 2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 19

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26
 

Wiretap

Pump Stretch: 1800

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min: 15

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage: 0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 12

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3500

 

Power Reduction: 25

 

0 PSI %: 92

1 PSI %:  93

2 PSI %: 94

3 PSI %: 95

4 PSI %: 96

5 PSI %: 98

6 PSI %: 100

7 PSI %: 102

8 PSI %: 106

9 PSI %: 110

10 PSI %:114

11 PSI %: 118

12 PSI %: 118  **This is where wiretap applies

13 PSI %: 118

14 PSI %: 120

15 PSI %: 122

16 PSI %: 124

18 PSI %: 126

20 PSI %: 128

22 PSI %: 130

24 PSI %: 130

26 PSI %: 130

28 PSI %: 130

30 PSI %: 130

 

Edited June 15, 2017 by Me78569

[Dieselfuture]

@Mopar1973Man@Me78569 What would you suggest for towing tune starting points, maybe 4-5k gtwr and 10-12k gtwr. I think Mikes tune for performance slightly modified will almost work perfect as I've been using it for DD but haven't really pulled a trailer yet. My set up is very similar to Mikes too, minor difference is I have 60hp vs 50hp injectors 5 vs 6 speed and slightly bigger tires, most of the time I drive like an old fart too. I'll keep playing with stuff, just want to go right direction.  

[Me78569]

try your current tune, only one way to know. I'd just tow without wiretap and egts should stay in check.  

 

I am honestly not a tuning guy by any means lol.  

[Me78569]

@xxTJRocksxx

Can you post up your before and after tune with the timing changes that allowed you to run more fuel without more smoke?  I am working on dialing in my race tune, but timing adjustments don't seem to be changing how much fuel I can throw at it without flooding the turbo.  

 

Curious.

[crf450ish]

Alright, after a 500+ mile roundtrip to Missoula, MT, me in the pass seat tuning in real time and my Dad driving the truck like a 57 year old truck driver that he is (this is a good thing), I think I am closing in on a tune that works very well for my truck, both for MPG and moving quickly when needed. Notice my signature. 

 

I call this my DAILY tune because, after all, it meets my daily driving needs/wants.      *** (STOCK INJECTORS)***

 

 

TUNE PARAMETERS

Number of Power levels: 8

RPM Limit: 3200

 

VALET MODE PARAMETERS

Maximum Valet Mode Power: 5 

 

PUMP TAP PARAMETERS

Maximum Fuel Stretch: 1800

TPS Pump Maximum: 100

TPS Pump Minimum: 0

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage: 25

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 0

Boost Scaling: 40

 

TIMING PARAMETERS

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv: 2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

RPM TIMING MAX

1500 RPM: 16

2000 RPM: 18

2500 RPM: 20

3000 RPM: 22

Max: 25

 

BOOST LEVEL FUELING - CAN BUS

0 PSI: 106

1 PSI: 107

2 PSI: 108

3 PSI: 109

4 PSI: 110

5 PSI: 111

6 PSI: 113

7 PSI: 114

8 PSI: 115

9 PSI: 116

10 PSI: 117

11 PSI: 118

12 PSI: 120

13 PSI: 121

14 PSI: 122

15 PSI: 124

16 PSI: 126

18 PSI: 129

20 PSI: 132

22 PSI: 135

24 PSI: 139

26 PSI: 143

28 PSI: 146

30 PSI: 150

 

 

Performance 

 

 

TUNE PARAMETERS

Number of Power levels: 6

RPM Limit: 3200

 

VALET MODE PARAMETERS

Maximum Valet Mode Power: 5 

 

PUMP TAP PARAMETERS

Maximum Fuel Stretch: 1800

TPS Pump Maximum: 100

TPS Pump Minimum: 0

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage: 50

Light Throttle Timing Adv: 2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

TIMING PARAMETERS

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 75

Cruise Timing Adv: 2

Cruise Timing Boost PSI Limit: 10

 

RPM TIMING MAX

1500 RPM: 15

2000 RPM: 18

2500 RPM: 20

3000 RPM: 21

Max: 24

 

BOOST LEVEL FUELING - CAN BUS

0 PSI: 115

1 PSI: 115

2 PSI: 115

3 PSI: 115

4 PSI: 115

5 PSI: 117

6 PSI: 120

7 PSI: 123

8 PSI: 126

9 PSI: 129

10 PSI: 132

11 PSI: 135

12 PSI: 139

13 PSI: 142

14 PSI: 145

15 PSI: 148

16 PSI: 150

18 PSI: 150

20 PSI: 150

22 PSI: 150

24 PSI: 150

26 PSI: 150

28 PSI: 150

30 PSI: 150

 

 

This tune, with quad set to level 3 (can bus only no wiretap) is comparable to what my Edge was on level 5.....Yeah!

 

 

Thanks @Me78569 for all of your help educating me on timing. 

Edited June 15, 2017 by Me78569

[c.englund]

Wondering if anyone here can point me in a good direction for tuning my truck. Both a race and daily. I currently have the default tuning and I am experiencing a surge starting around 2,300rpm. Fuel related upgrades are 6x.016 injectors along with larger inj. Supply tubes, so vp, and fass 150. 

The surge is tuning related, only happens when on levels 1+. On stock it doesn't do it. Fuel pressure is perfect too. 

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 

 

[Mopar1973Man]

@c.englund might help if you fill out your signature of the mods on your truck. 

 

As for me I've got to write a towing tune fairly quick. I'll be hauling my RV down south to Parma, ID for a second home. 

 

On Tuesday I'll be heading home to install my injectors on Wednesday which will be 7x0.008 +75HP injectors. So my economy and performance tunes are most likely change being Jacob @dieselautopower mentioned that they will flow like +90HP with the pintle mods I've got coming. This will be my biggest injector yet.

[Me78569]

18 hours ago, c.englund said:

Wondering if anyone here can point me in a good direction for tuning my truck. Both a race and daily. I currently have the default tuning and I am experiencing a surge starting around 2,300rpm. Fuel related upgrades are 6x.016 injectors along with larger inj. Supply tubes, so vp, and fass 150. 

The surge is tuning related, only happens when on levels 1+. On stock it doesn't do it. Fuel pressure is perfect too. 

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 

 

Flash your box with the most recent base flash that we have hosted.

 

Follow the tuning guide in the v2 tuning article.

[xxTJRocksxx]

On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 11:58 AM, Me78569 said:

@xxTJRocksxx

Can you post up your before and after tune with the timing changes that allowed you to run more fuel without more smoke?  I am working on dialing in my race tune, but timing adjustments don't seem to be changing how much fuel I can throw at it without flooding the turbo.  

 

Curious.

 

 

 

The highway tune is smokier in city driving, but is completely clean on PL 2 on the highway.

See the PDF's for my tunes, I am running 5* cruise timing on the highway tune to get the fuel to burn.

Quad Tune Calculator.pdf

@Me78569

[Me78569]

thanks a ton for those.

[xxTJRocksxx]

38 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

thanks a ton for those.

@Me78569

 

I need to get serious and get to the track with a go pro and boost gauge in view, I think there are a few scales that need tweaking, but from what I can see, under 0 load conditions IE Neutral, X amount of fuel + Timing = Y Rpm,  so regardless of injector size, the ECM will pull fuel message to keep the rpm where desired. With that logic, it makes sense that in highway conditions, Injector size A will flow Xy amount of fuel to maintain RPM, and Injector size B will also flow Xy amount of fuel to maintain RPM, the only difference will be in the fuel message from the ECM.

 

Basically, what I did on the highway tune was think that injector size A or B will flow Xy fuel for Y RPM, so I compensated the atomization time to burn with 5* of timing. Seems to work pretty well and I was able to log 23.8 MPG with that tune in spring conditions. With larger injectors I would probably run the cruise timing even higher, but after testing from 0-6*, 5* seemed to run best at 100% Canbus fuel.

 

[thatblackvptruck]

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction for a tune for my truck I have a 62/475 twin setup with 250 sticks and a monster mike stage 2 vp44 I would like a all out tune as well as a dd

[Me78569]

Did you follow the tuning guide in the tuning article?

 

[thatblackvptruck]

I'm new to this tuning just got it for my truck 

[Me78569]

Work through this article.  The more you understand the happier you will be

 

Read it over, watch the video, then follow the tuning guide at hte bottom.  Most importantly you need to find your starting pointl. 

[thatblackvptruck]

Ok thanks is there anyone on here with a similar setup I can guage off of

[Me78569]

@TFaoro was but he is up here at 7000' altitude and a SO pump.  No one has run it with a monster pump yet, that I know of, so you will need to figure out how much wiretap you can use.  

The key part is figuring out where you starting point is.  I would guess ~%75 but that's only a guess that I would use based on my driving style.

Keep in mind that how you want the truck to drive will greatly alter the tune. 

Edited March 21, 2017 by Me78569