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I feel so light duty now.

I had the lens in my left eye replaced some years ago and now working under the hood is right in my best vision zone. Easy to work above the engine with them off. I only notice it when I am walking away. Two words for that one. Telescopic magnets. I would have no air flow if it was not for that simple tool.

You might have left it but the censor got it. Been thinking more about one of these myself.

I dont read up on the third gens that much, but are they that much different than my 02 in that respect?

I left off another important lesson learned with this work I did, Be sure all of your tools are out from under the hood before closing. Had everything put up, closed the hood and walked to the house. Thats when I noticed I did not have my glasses on. It is amazing how much you can bend a pair of glasses when you lay them just above the rubber on the cowl and slam the hood twice. Damn!!!

same here boss man.

Another card carrying member of the family. Just had my card renewed last Sunday.

I just replaced my resume/coast button. Ordered it from Rock auto. It was a Standard Motor products switch but when I opened the box it had the same blue Dodge sticker and part# on it.The one on the right is 17 years old.

Thats one leaky truck. Guess he want have to worry about that if the front end fall off of it.

I believe you are speaking of S165. The wiring diagram shows a splice near the breakout for the ECM. Another fun place to stick my hands into. But I did have my hand shoved down in there searching for the socket. A good a place to start as any. I am thinking more of the wiring than the sensor. But they are not near as pricey as a MAP sensor. Thats why I was trying my old one. Still cant believe I broke it. Gorilla hands I guess. Anyway all functioned as normal today in my driving around Maryland.

this guy makes me look like the suspension genius. Thats amazing.

I did not any signal voltage on anything. Did not have the time. I figured to just change out the sensor and see if it might be flakey. Think I proved it is not the sensor; Last week I pulled the same connections loose and cleaned them up and nothing changed. The sensor seemed to be the next logical step. I did have my hands shoved in the ECM wiring and whatever else was down there while searching for the socket I dropped. Would that be the one that is buried in the engine wiring harness?

The wife's 06 Dakota did the same thing with the tow haul button. When it was on it change the shift pattern on the tranny. Up shifted later and down shifted going down a hill to slow the truck, did not have to have your foot on the brake just dd it on its own.. I does sound like yours does a good bit more than that however. Her 00 only had an OD on or off button. The 06 was an improvement.

I have seen the 500 code in my 6 speed on a few occasions, Usually after driving on slick surfaces. Always attributed it to the speed difference in the wheels. I guess you might not see it in a RWAL vehicle? Manual or auto.

Just to throw this out there it is my understanding that the valve opens to its max at 14 psi. The valve actually has a small bypass in it that always allows a little fuel by even at idle but as the pressure ramps up to 14 psi the valves opens fully. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

I am a little stunned myself. One part I left out. I put some DAP 50's in the truck a few months ago and they were smokey. When this last bout of surging and codes was happening I noticed that sometimes they were not smokey and other times they were but never got correlation of what was happening when they were or were not. Other that haze at WOT they dd not smoke coming up here and I hammered a few times to make them smoke. Did not even smoke when lugging the engine.

This is a long story and I will try not to be long winded. This really started long before I became a member here and before my ECM crapped out so bare with me.. About 6 years after buying the truck my ECT just fell out. Very typical of a failed t stat. Thru the years and many t stats plus a couple sensors and radiator caps, most recently replaced them all again three weeks ago.Even sent one to @Mopar1973Man packed in one dollars and it worked fine for him. After installing a cheap Suncoast gauge from Auto Zone under the hood and it mostly told the engine temp was good. Something in the wiring. I hate wiring. About three years ago I started experiencing some surging in the engine, at idle and you could feel it under light throttle. It would pop some APPS codes during these episodes. Occasionally it would rev up to near 10% and pop a 0222 code and go to a dead pedal. I would have to pull off the road and wait for the pedal to come back. I did some diagnostics and it all pointed to the APPS. Had a Timbo and just did not want to buy another without knowing for sure. So I bought a cheapy off ebay for 16 bucks. Installed it and sure enough no surging. So I bit the bullet and bought a new Timbo. Put it on and every thing was good for about 5 minutes and the surging was back. I put the cheapie back on and no surging, but soon after it popped a 0222 code but still drove just fine. Cleared the code many times but always came back as soon as I started the engine. I got worried about it and put the Timbo back in and learned to live with it. Not the best way to handle for sure but it is what I did. Fast forward to about 4 months ago and all this started getting out hand. My engine temp was down to levels I have never seen. A few times I watched it drop from 170 to 135 on the scan gauge at the snap of finger. Surging was getting worse and the cruise was going wacky. Some days the surging was crazy and it would pop the 222 code, dead pedal, and then the cruise would not turn on until the engine would surge again. Just whacky behavior. The engine was throwing codes and the 4 seem to repeat themselves. 236, 237, 121, 222. The 236 seemed to be the first one of the 4 to pop. Not sure why but that how it was happening. I remember posting about this before and IIRC @Mopar1973Man said something to me about checking the MAP sensor harness or sensor not sure which now. But I did still have my OE MAP sensor from when the ECM crapped out on me so I figure I would put it in one day and see what would happen. Fast forward to today. I figured I would stick that MAP sensor in before heading back to Maryland. Pretty simple right. Well when backing the new one out I dropped the socket with the sensor in it and never heard it hit the ground. Should not be a problem beings it was a 1 1/16" deepwell socket with a sensor sticking out of it. It fell back in behind the starter and took me 30 minutes to find it. Not to mention its about 98* outside and 85% humidity and I am sweating like pig but did finally find it. Installed the old one and while trying to plug the harness on I broke the connector off of the MAP sensor. Guess it got brittle over the years who knows. Any way I put the old one back in and I am soaked in sweat and tired of F'ing with it all. I just drove 450 miles with no surging and temp gauge that read normal all the way up here. It swung between 190 and 195 the whole way. I have not seen that on my dash in 10 years. I am amazed but not sure how the MAP and the ECT are interconnected at the MAP harness. Anyway I am as happy as a mule eating briers but figure this will come back one day and need to figure out how this happened. Any thoughts are appreciated. So much for no long windedness but if I had told the whole story I would still be type for another hour.

This is a long story and I will try not to be long winded. This really started long before I became a member here and before my ECM crapped out so bare with me.. About 6 years after buying the truck my ECT just fell out. Very typical of a failed t stat. Thru the years and many t stats plus a couple sensors and radiator caps, most recently replaced them all again three weeks ago.Even sent one to @Mopar1973Man packed in one dollars and it worked fine for him. After installing a cheap Suncoast gauge from Auto Zone under the hood and it mostly told the engine temp was good. Something in the wiring. I hare wiring. About three years ago I started experiencing some surging in the engine, at idle and you could feel it under light throttle. It would pop some APPS codes during these episodes. Occasionally it would rev up to near 10% and pop a 0222 code and go to a dead pedal. I would have to pull off the road and wait for the pedal to come back. I did some diagnostics and it all pointed to the APPS. Had a Timbo and just did not want to but another without knowing for sure. So I bought a cheapy off ebay for 16 bucks. Installed it and sure enough no surging. So I bit the bullet and bought a new Timbo. Put it on and every thing was good for about 5 minutes and the surging was back. I put the cheapie back on and no surging, but soon after it popped a 0222 code but still drove just fine. Cleared the code many times but always came back as soon as I started the engine. I got worried about it and put the Timbo back in and learned to live with it. Not the best way to handle for sure but it is what I did. Fast forward to about 4 months ago and all this started getting out hand. My engine temp was down to levels I have never seen. A few times I watched it drop from 170 to 135 on the scan gauge at the snap of finger. Surging was getting worse and the cruise was going wacky. Some days the surging was crazy and it would pop the 222 code, dead pedal, and then the cruise would not turn on until the engine would surge again. Just whacky behavior. The engine was throw codes and the 4 seem to repeat themselves. 236, 237, 121, 222. The 236 seemed to be the first one of the 4 to pop. Not sure why but that how it was happening. I remember posting about this before and IIRC @Mopar1973Man said something to me about checking the MAP sensor harness or sensor not sure which now. But I did still have my OE MAP sensor from when the ECM crapped out on me so I figure I would put it in one day and see what would happen. Fast forward to today. I figured I would stick that MAP sensor in before heading back to Maryland. Pretty simple right. Well when backing the new one out I dropped the socket with the sensor in it and never heard it hit the ground. Should not be a problem beings it was a 1 1/16" deepwell socket with a sensor sticking out of it. It fell back in behind the starter and took me 30 minutes to find it. Not to mention its about 98* outside and 85% humidity and I am sweating like pig but did finally find it. Installed the old one and while trying to plug the harness on I broke the connector off of the MAP sensor. Guess it got brittle over the years who knows. Any way I put the old one back in and I am soaked in sweat and tired of F'ing with it all. I just drove 450 miles with no surging and temp gauge that read normal all the way up here. It swung between 190 and 195 the whole way. I have not seen that on my dash in 10 years. I am amazed but not sure how the MAP and the ECT are interconnected at the MAP harness. Anyway I am as happy as a mule eating briers but figure this will come back one day and need to figure out how this happened. Any thoughts are appreciated. So much for no long windedness but if I had told the whole story I would still be type for another hour.

I never had any of the typical symptoms the rock solid said it would address so I never got one. I do have a slight grind when I get wheel near a full revolution to the right. I figure there is a bearing of sorts on the upper end the needs my attention.It is going to get it soon but just have to much on the plate at the moment. Thought it might be the clock spring since I was having other issues but I replace it last week and the grind is still there. I can hear and feel the vibration but there is no more resistance while steering.

Welcome to the forum Mr. Chicken. Good to see another member of the fowl family.

Sounds like everything is turning out alright after the trade in. All good to hear DW.

Well it looks like the not so electrically challenged have come to the rescue. Still want to know this AD trick @jlbayes mentioned.

I am definitely not the electrical genius either. Having issues myself but thats another story. Hate to see someone frustrated and ready to sell. Been there done that but made it thru it.

The engine too?