Administrator Mopar1973Man Posted September 6 Administrator Share Posted September 6 https://washingtonnewsday.com/news/covid-19-kills-113-fully-vaccinated-oregon-residents-13166-new-cases-are-reported/ Since January, at least 113 Oregonians who were completely vaccinated have died of COVID-19. At least 63 of the deaths affected adults above the age of 80. There were 29 cases involving persons aged 70 to 79, 15 cases involving people aged 60 to 69, three cases involving people aged 50 to 59, and three cases involving residents aged 40 to 49. Ok so does it actually work? I would say no. If a side effect of death because the vaccine doesn't protect you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Of Directors JAG1 Posted September 6 Board Of Directors Share Posted September 6 It has to be blamed on the 'new variant'. That gets them off the hook. Imagine having to be reliant on a booster every 3 to 4 months... your immune system would be totally damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Mopar1973Man Posted September 6 Author Administrator Share Posted September 6 Very true... not to mention the main side effect of death. I've seen another report the chances of death is higher after you been vaccinated. A good friend has COVID right now but after he's cleared the infection his antibodies will be much better than any vaccine. His wife already kicked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator AH64ID Posted September 6 Moderator Share Posted September 6 (edited) Having had covid does not make you immune to getting it again. I know several people that have had it more than once. When you get down to it the leading cause of death is life, it kills you 100% of the time. 113 out of how many? Percentage is the important number, not number of cases. The vaccine is not intended to make you immune, but rather to lessen the effects. That means that it can still kill you, but it’s less likely to. Not advocating one way or the other, just needing to see the whole picture to make an accurate judgement. Edited September 6 by AH64ID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Mopar1973Man Posted September 6 Author Administrator Share Posted September 6 Let's say there has not been enough testing for me to jump in line for the vaccine. I've already seen one doctor get the vaccine and still got COVID. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator AH64ID Posted September 6 Moderator Share Posted September 6 2 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said: I've already seen one doctor get the vaccine and still got COVID. Not surprising. Like I said it’s not designed to keep you from getting it, it’s designed to keep you out of the hospital when you get it. Like I said, not advocating one way or the other just making sure facts are being stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doubletrouble Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Not saying I'm right or wrong but I will not get the vaccine. If they begin forcing it somehow, I will hold out as long as I can against it. I see what they're doing to the people of Australia, it's very disturbing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Of Directors JAG1 Posted September 7 Board Of Directors Share Posted September 7 (edited) There is much more to blame than just a virus, which BTW are everywhere and our immune system has been very finely built to deal with them but, what I'm saying is there are many factors why we see this happening because our food, our water, our air have all been compromised in some way. in turn our immune systems have been comprimised. They are seeing the same with bee populations not able to fight off disease as well. Bird populations are diminishing in a lot of areas too. Another thing to consider is that our elderly population has never been as large as it is on the planet today and they are most vulnerable. Combine that with what the Gov't pays each hospital for taking care of a covid patient that passes and you can see the numbers. Additionally the only test known to find out whether you have it or not is not reliable. The PCR test will show positive in many cases of simple cold or flu because it cannot differentiate between different virus with a specific novel RNA. In fact the Corona Virus itself has not been isolated to show a specific novel virus. Keep in mind that it's long been known that a vaccine or booster shot causes the immune system to concentrate only on a specific type of virus thus showing a trade off in which your immune system becomes weak against many other types of disease. Edited September 7 by JAG1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doubletrouble Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Very well put @JAG1. With that all being said you can imagine how this "viral pandemic" has tured into a cash machine for some. A way to control population for others and just plain old control through fear for the rest of them. I may be called a "conspiracy theorist" of sorts but it's hard to ignore the possibilities. This country is in turmoil to put it lightly. The world in general is a mess as well. We live in turbulent times ladies and gentlemen. Do what you see fit to take care of yourself and those you love. Truth be told, I am scared of our future and I don't scare easily. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Of Directors JAG1 Posted September 7 Board Of Directors Share Posted September 7 (edited) 22 hours ago, Doubletrouble said: Very well put @JAG1. With that all being said you can imagine how this "viral pandemic" has tured into a cash machine for some. A way to control population for others and just plain old control through fear for the rest of them. I may be called a "conspiracy theorist" of sorts but it's hard to ignore the possibilities. This country is in turmoil to put it lightly. The world in general is a mess as well. We live in turbulent times ladies and gentlemen. Do what you see fit to take care of yourself and those you love. Truth be told, I am scared of our future and I don't scare easily. Thanks Doubletrouble. I am learning to accept the things in this world foretold 2,000 years ago, written down, given to us so we would know how real He is. He foretold these times before population explosion or waste and pollution where ever a thought.... Hence, I have come to relax because as we progress further into these times it allows our faith to progress ever stronger as you see it with your eyes and heart. Sorry to wax religious you guys..... it's the only way I can explain all the crazy things happening these last couple years. Edited September 8 by JAG1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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