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Raptor 150 Died in Gellette Wyo.

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idahocountryboy

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Ok y'all.I'll try to get to the point, I'm on a 5,000 mile RV trip (to my wedding, in N. Idaho from Texas), now I'm on my honeymoon, on my way back to Texas broke down in Gillette Wyo. Here is what happened. I was driving I-90 E. Relativity flat rolling hills. I have been watching all my gauges like a hawk. My fuel gauge vibrates and always has when I drive but not at idle. So I am driving at about 60 - 65 mph, 15 psi fuel pressure (normal) I see my gauge go... 15- 5 - 15 - 5 -15 - 0 - 0 - 0... I pull over in the matter of less than a minute. Pull over, shut her down. BUMP the starter, NO Raptor noise for 20 - 30 seconds like normal. Did this several times. Not even the initial prime of 4-5 seconds from the Raptor. Pop the hood, check electrical hook ups, fuses, Relays I can't really check but yeah they are there. All seems normal. Call a tow truck, get towed to Crazy Woman RV park, and ordered another Raptor 150 over night from Wyo Diesel. Supposed to be here from 11 am -1pm. I think the Raptor just quit. I have mechanical fuel pressure gauge, and because of the way I actually saw it happen, i don't know what else it could be? I have had this Raptor for about 2 - 2 1/2 years now, never an issue. Never got me below 12 psi WOT. Idle at 18 - 20 psi, drive at 15 - 17 psi. The truck will start and run, I did that to move the rv in place 8', and unhook off the rv if I need to get towed again, but I'm done doing that. Going to call PureFlow here soon and talk to them, I don't remember sending in my card, but I think I did, I am usually good about that type of thing, even so, I'm in Gillette, my mail is in San Antonio. Any Ideas? Like what happened, when I rip it off I will crack it open and see what might of happened. So until then, I get to wait. __________________

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Are you using the wiring harness that came with the Raptor? If so, there is a fuse in the harness. Check that as well. I would disconnect and reconnect the harness at all locations. Check at the pump as well! I ended up putting dielectric grease on all of the wiring harness connections. Also, there is a fuse in the PDC by the drivers side battery. Interchange the fuse with another one of same size and see if you have any luck. Let us know what you found out!

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Are you using the wiring harness that came with the Raptor? If so, there is a fuse in the harness. Check that as well. I would disconnect and reconnect the harness at all locations. Check at the pump as well! I ended up putting dielectric grease on all of the wiring harness connections. Also, there is a fuse in the PDC by the drivers side battery. Interchange the fuse with another one of same size and see if you have any luck. Let us know what you found out!

Did all this on the road I pulled over on... still no movement from the Raptor, nor does it fire on, or anything.

Seems I see a new "my raptor pump is dead" thread everyday. I dont think I would be being anything from pureflow but I know with everyone bad one there is probably 1000 good ones.

yeah I said the same thing about FASS... 3 of 3 of my buddies all had issues with FASS so, yeah... electric pumps are just that... electric. As far as the pump itself, when working, I have had nothing but good things to say about time, and would get another in a heart beat on any other rig I get. Just one of those things I guess... I just hope it's this simple in that the Raptor locked up... and not something much bigger.
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This is the first I've ever read of a "Raptor" LP puking out!!!!!:stuned: I have no clue as to how to help you out.:duh:For the last several years, I've read nothing but good things about the Raptor system. They seemed as "bullet-proof" as the Walbro systems out there...............like I've been running for probably 6 years now!!!:thumbup2:I probably just jinxed myself and my Walbro by saying that!!:banghead:

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Got my new Raptor 150 today... took off the old one, put on the new and.... nothing :confused013:

I am at a total loss.

- no fuses blown

- no apparent power going to pump

- no fuel pressure

- new pump on truck (with old wiring harness)

Now, because I didn't change out the wiring harness, it could be that, but, I would not think so with no blow fuses. I didn't re-wire it because of time, and frustration. :banghead:

Tomorrow it goes to the shop, I'm done working on it now, I'm tired and don't know what to do now.

I tore apart that old raptor... It did look pretty bad, smelled burned too. And, there where some very noticeable differences.

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The back of the Raptor where it mounts to the brackets. The Left is new RP, the Right is the old RP. The new one doesn't have that sliver screw thing in the back (sorry I don't know what it is but it's not the same as the old)

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The inlet port, has NO FREAKING SCREEN!!! I was like WTF?!... and no i could not get the one from the old one in the new one. I called PF but no answer, after Easter Time. Very curious about that one.

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This is to try to show the screen on the old pump... not very clogged at all... tiny little stuff but nothing big.

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This was after I had rubbed on it a little trying to get something done, but that copper, was covered in that black soot like stuff...:confused013:

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That silver screw on the back of the pump means it is the old version of the pump. They gave me a new one for free when I had that model. If you don't have power to the pump you have a computer problem. You can jump the pump directly from the battery and the pump will run. Just make sure you undo the jump when you turn it off.

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Congrats on the wedding!

Thanks after all this issues with my rig it was well worth it.

idaho, did you ever get mobile again? Just curious.

Yeah, what'd you figure out?..... I'm all ears:popcorn:

Yes I did get moving again... It was a short in the wiring harness... guess it over loaded the Raptor, toasting it, and was just after the fuse, it never blew... So on the road again... New question though. Why will my new Raptor not hold at 20 psi idle, 17 driving, 15 under load? I bumped it up to 20 psi Idle. then driving my rv its down to 12 - 15 psi...? Now it idles at 18 psi? tighten the lock nut down more? :shrug:
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Thanks after all this issues with my rig it was well worth it. Yes I did get moving again... It was a short in the wiring harness... guess it over loaded the Raptor, toasting it, and was just after the fuse, it never blew... So on the road again... New question though. Why will my new Raptor not hold at 20 psi idle, 17 driving, 15 under load? I bumped it up to 20 psi Idle. then driving my rv its down to 12 - 15 psi...? Now it idles at 18 psi? tighten the lock nut down more? :shrug:

Yep, my new one is exactly the same also with 1/2" lines and draw straw all the way. BTW, I do carry the extra stock pump in the tool box. One last thing.... after idahocountryboy's story, does anyone feel like the wire harness fuse should be smaller?
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Yep, my new one is exactly the same also with 1/2" lines and draw straw all the way. BTW, I do carry the extra stock pump in the tool box. One last thing.... after idahocountryboy's story, does anyone feel like the wire harness fuse should be smaller?

If what Idaho says is correct; and the cause was a wiring harness calamity, and it didn't cause the fuse to blow..................yeah, I can see that!!:smart: That's what fuses are for.......so you don't fry stuff and get stranded when Murphy's Law tries to bite you in the backside!!!:2cents:
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