Mopar1973Man

No. Typically I would say most dealers would send them out to be tested. Like around me there isn't a single dealer capable of pop testing. But now a diesel injection shop would. Electronics on top of the VP44 typically once they start to fail the continue to fail all the time. If the fuel pressure is greater than 14 PSI then the electronics will be at the temperature of the fuel regardless of the engine temperature. Typically the fuel temperature is <120*F so that's not going to be it either. But now the injectors while cold will have nice tight tolerances and fire nicely while the engine is cold but now get coolant temperature up and the tolerances of the pintle needle and the nozzle start to get a bit sloppy and end up with pissy injectors which is your misfire issue most likely. This why I suggest you take them and test them at least that is a low cost or free test. As for condemning the VP44 I have a rule of requiring 2 smoking guns. In other words I would require like low fuel pressure (<10 PSI) and P0216 error code. Then I'd say yes the VP44 is done time to replace. But we don't have that yet.

:duh:Take them to a local diesel shop and watch them test the injectors. All my injectors are tested in front of me I'm able to watch the pop pressure, spray pattern and if the injector is pissy or not. I typically don't pay anything for pop testing it only when the injectors have to be tuned I pay $15 a injector. Sound like you install them correctly the second time. But it still sound like a classic injecotr problem more so than injection pump. If it was the injection pump it typically doesn't matter what the temp of the engine is it will do it all the the time. But as a injector get hot they tend to fail and misfire but cold they work fine.

What said by MnTom is another possiblity of damaged/mis-tuned injector(s) too.

Drawstraw is easy. Lay a quarter in the bottom of the tank and cut the tube flat to fit. This is for a empty tank measurement as you fill the tank it will deflect away from the tip of the tube from the weight of the fuel. Do not cut at angle. you can lightly notch the tip bit no more that 1/16 or 1/8 of inch no more!No 1/4 tank issues here I typically can get right down to the Empty mark.

When installing the injector did you tighten the crossover tubes first or the injectors hold down caps?Correct answer is crossover should be first other wise the crossover tubes can't be seated correctly because the injector hold down caps should be loose so the injector can wiggle into position. So now you might have a high pressure leak inside the return rail and never see it but the engine will run as you describe.

Well all I can say is contact a local dealer and see what they are willing to do to make it right. I would document everything and take photos of all problems. Then contact the dealer and and see what he's willing to do. If they are not willing to play ball then you could contact the main office and see what they are willing to do. But most of all keep your calm going don't let them get under your skin. Even back with my 1976 Dodge Motorhome I bought from my Dad back in 1994 he provided me with all the documentation. I found several time the motorhome was returned to the dealer with several issues from stereo speakers, to roof leak, water pump issues, etc. But by the time I bought it no biggy. Just enjoy life with my "New" used 1976 Dodge Jamboree Motorhome. Which I gladly traded in on the 2000 Jayco which I bought back in 2011. Once again a used unit without any issues.

Not to hijack... 2008 Honda Rancher ATV (Manual 5 Speed) 1983 Honda Goldwing (Manual 5 Speed) 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 (Manual 5 Speed) 1996 Dodge Ram 1500 (Auto 4 Speed) You said what?! I will admit the technology has come a long ways since the release of the 46RE and 47RE transmissions and the newer 6 speed have been getting good reviews by others so I'm not really throwing rocks at any of them just been a manual guy for so long I really don't like a PCM deciding when to shift for me.

Just the rear axle sensor is use for speed. I would double check the connections of the Edge unit it might be a loose connection.

Yea. I still use the factory spare tire jack with no issues.But use my 3.5 ton floor jack for service work but use jack stands for security and safety.

An old trailer thread I think I should toss a few new ones on too... :whistle:2013 Bigtex 70TV trailer I purchased...My first haul of firewood in the BigTex 70TV trailer a bit light but still getting the feel for it.

Empty truck is no problem lifting from the diff housing. The dry rear axle weight of my truck is 2,860# so its a long ways from the 6,084# gross limits. The front axle is 4,440# dry weight so its not suggest to single jack the front in the center because all the weight. But now if the truck was loaded with cargo I would not lift from the diff at all but as close to the springs as possible.

Actually I do understand really well just the fact we had filled 2 fold-a-tanks with 2,400 gallons of water and the the tender sitting there with 1,200 gallons saves the engine crews the 9 mile round trip down to the creek to draft water. So they only have to roll out about 2 miles round trip and load up from our crew and not even draft we will pump to the fill port or top load if they want. You just start getting punchy by the time the type 2 team leaves and you are back to smaller type 3 that isn't doing much. Last few day they might of taken 600 gallons off the water tender to give you a idea. Even the engine boss was saying we are not empty but figure its slow so we'll top off with water to given everyone something to do.

At the time of my adventure there wasn't any HX35W turbos available any where. I was stuck with getting it rebuilt. Yeah ISX is right I have more damage done to mine. :banghead:

For historic reasons... Here is the web information on the fires... Rough Creek http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3512/ Electronic Site Fire - This didn't get listed for some reason but it was a small 6 acre burn with in about 1/4 mile of the Cold Spring Repeater.

I missed that... :doh:But here is a video on spin balancing turbo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMA5RFpGRbg

Mopar's Notes: P0500 Error Code - Explained Since 4 wheel anti lock brakes rely on 2 front axle sensors and 1 rear wheel sensor. The CAB (Controller Anti lock Brakes) is watching the speed output from all 3 sensors at one time. So when on a slick surface like ice, gravel, wet pavement, etc. when you accelerate rapidly and cause the rear tires to spin the rear speed sensor jumps up in speed rapidly and the front 2 sensor could be at zero speed yet. So the CAB (Controller Anti lock Brakes) can't understand how the rear half of the truck is doing say 35 MPH and the front half is doing 0 MPH. POOF! P0500 code is thrown. http://articles.mopar1973man.com/2nd-generation-24v-dodge-cummins/23-brake-system/29-antilock-braking-system-abs

I'm finally completed both Electronic Site Fire and the Rough Creek Fire. I'm not officially off duty from both fires and now back to normal life again. I'll admit I'm a bit sore and tire not that sitting next to a water tender and filling engines with water was tough job, it's just that long days and short nights tend to eat at you. Glad to be back to a normal life.

APPS sensor fail that causes dead pedal willl 99% of the time set a P0121, P0122 or P0123 error code. The other dead pedal that doesn't set codes is either VP44 failure or ECM failure (rare). So please read your code and report back.

Yea... Most of us don't even have isolators. Now I've heard all the tales of "I don't want to have a fuel leak in the cab" so why do people plumb a oil pressure gauge into the cab with nylon tubing and 60-80 PSI of black engine oil in the cab? Nothing said about that?! But plumb into the cab a small 14-20 PSI fuel line with Air brake line that has a burst rating of 600-800 PSI and its a OMG moment! Never made any sense.

I paid $820 for the full rebuild on my HX35W but there is one thing they are not doing is spin balancing the turbo. So I kind of understand why the price would be lower.

I'm also the same way I don't own much for autos and don't really care for them. But diesel4life is right you might want to double check the neutral safety switches and verify its not any safety system locking it out by chance.

I would call Pureflow on a warranty issue on the fuel regulator. A good AirDog or Raptor only drops about 2-3 PSI from idle to WOT. If you have any stock fuel lines left you must get get of them to and change Big Line Kit. You pressures are getting way too low. 6-10 is damaging pressure and most likely caused the P0216.Good Fuel pressure is 14-20 PSI.

Actually its kind of backwards... Used trailers typically have no issues because the previous owners dealt with them. Then new trailer typically 80-90% of new trailer owners show up over on the RV forums complaining about quality and workmanship. Then you full-time usage of the RV is not normal because the definition of RV is a part-time dwelling not a full-time. So lot of RV manufactures tend to look down on the full time usage. Like I said before my used Jayco was in excellent condition everything worked just a few minor issues. But I've never looked back...

That is one of the reasons I bought a used RV and not new. Just like when I bought a new truck I been back down to the dealer three time to fix warranty issues (Water Pump, Pinion Seal, and VP44) So I didn't want to even consider buying a new RV because of this issue. But now my utility trailer I did buy new because I didn't want to deal with hunting for a utility trailer that was abused. So there is a place for everything but its really common so see new owners of RV do exactly want your doing is complaining about there new RV because of all the issues. I will say it smarter to not live and a RV till you gotten at least a year of just weekend trip to debug the new RV. Like I said it really common to see several issues or complaints of manufacture quality.

I too have had a close call with lightning storms and really like to watch but hate to see it too close. I'll never forget the smell of lightning... It's very spooky...