brake main line failure

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

So if this is wrong section move please.

 

I had a main brake line failure today, thankfully while teaching nephew manual transmission. he was standing on the brake and thankfully caused the fault which would have been very bad had i been at speed.

 

it is the steel main line along driver frame rail leading to the rear brake valve. all rubber lines still look good but im gonna redo ALL brake lines steel and rubber to have a fresh system.

 

 

[dripley]

Let us knowwhere you source the lines. I have been thinking for a while now. Just a biggerjob than I can do right now.

[IBMobile]

4 hours ago, dripley said:

Let us knowwhere you source the lines

The kits are readily available.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01HmkV199-OrSYF2YJBgWc6DdG8rQ%3A1584668970214&source=hp&ei=KiF0XpyHCsvH-gSn8K3wCw&q=2001+dodge+ram+2500+diesel+brake+line+kit&oq=2001+dodge+ram+2500+brake+line+kit&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0j0i22i30.2050.23285..28244...2.0..0.271.4584.3j29j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j35i39.DTaPuCubM90   

[dripley]

11 minutes ago, IBMobile said:

The kits are readily available.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01HmkV199-OrSYF2YJBgWc6DdG8rQ%3A1584668970214&source=hp&ei=KiF0XpyHCsvH-gSn8K3wCw&q=2001+dodge+ram+2500+diesel+brake+line+kit&oq=2001+dodge+ram+2500+brake+line+kit&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0j0i22i30.2050.23285..28244...2.0..0.271.4584.3j29j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j35i39.DTaPuCubM90   

I have seen some kits just dont know which ones are any good. 

[Towrigdually]

Sstubes.com would be my go to, I’ve use them on my 95 1500 and a few other vehicles without complaint. 
Since these are pre-bent lines, some do take finesse to fit properly, but not much. the main line that runs the frame usually comes in an oval about 4’ long, just smooth it out by hand and by the time it’s put on the frame you can’t tell it was ever shipped in a box. 

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

my truck specific is 2001 quad cab, long bed, drum, rear 2wheel antilock (rear axle) single rear wheel so i presume its the dana 80?

 

ive still yet to figure out if my rear is a 80 hybrid or 70. its the HO engine, NV5600 tranny, single wheels

 

i looked at the glovebox code list (barely can read it)

front axle DJF 5200 (dana 60 im sure)

ratio AMD (i think 3.55?)

rear axle DRL and i see an 8000 at the end (dana 80?)

 

ok i took pics and compared them, i do have a dana 80 rear.

 

specs

https://www.dieselhub.com/maintenance/dana-80-fluid.html

 

 

 

Edited March 20, 2020 by CUMMINSDIESELPWR

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

found this site

 

https://fcacommunity.force.com/RAM/s/equipment-listing

 

which gave me this (shortened version)

Vehicle Description 2001 DODGE RAM 2500 P/U QUAD CAB

 

Dana M60/248MM Front Axle

Shift-on-the-Fly,241HD Transfer Case

3.55 Rear Axle Ratio

Dana M80 Rear Axle

 

all i am finding for these kits are for my truck with a dana70 axle...  im gonna have to go to the dodge shop to get part numbers

 

 

Edited March 20, 2020 by CUMMINSDIESELPWR

[Mopar1973Man]

Talk to @pepsi71ocean he did a full brake line kit if I recall correctly it was stainless steel lines?

[Dieselfuture]

There are prefabbed SS lines I seen before

[pepsi71ocean]

I wrote up an article about this. I have the website that I bought them from. They give you all of options to choose from.

 

 

Read the article, and follow it, there are parts for or trucks you can't get, so don't throw it all out first.

[Max Tune]

I prefer the copper-nickel brake line. Easy to work with and can be ran wherever you want. Will never rust.

[wil440]

I make my own using copper-nickle, did the one all the way round the front at last years check

[Ironforger]

Last year I blew the front to back brake line (runs along the frame rail behind the fuel tank). Luckily I was rolling to a slow stop when it happened, and I was able to get the truck home using downshifting to slow down.

 

Nothing to mess with. I noticed a few other rusty brake lines and decided to replace all brake lines and hoses.

 

I got the epoxy coated brake lines from napa. I cut, , custom bent and double flared them, then spray painted again.

 

Years ago I installed full stainless steel lines on my restored 62 Ford Falcon. Looks great, but I had to send out the lines to get double flared. I couldn't do the double flare with my brake flare kit,  wouldnt work.  The stainless is to tough to work with.   If I had the time I'd do it again for my Dodge truck but I had to get it back up and running in a hurry.

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

thanks for the information everyone, i will be putting together parts when i get the $ to do so and after this pandemic is over with in a few months.

On 3/20/2020 at 7:19 PM, pepsi71ocean said:

I wrote up an article about this. I have the website that I bought them from. They give you all of options to choose from.

 

 

Read the article, and follow it, there are parts for or trucks you can't get, so don't throw it all out first.

thank you so much! i believe this is the one i need.

2001 ex cab long bed 4wd D80 single wheel axle RWABS

 

https://www.sstubes.com/collections/brake-and-hose/products/blh76_complete_brake_line_and_hose_kit

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

well this brake job just opened up to a complete brake and bearing overhaul.

 

front driver unit hub is bad, driver rear (original bearing) is kinda crunchy.

 

all bearings front rear will be replaced, all parking brake hardware will be replaced along with parking brake cables.

all brake lines and hardware will be replaced (got the sstubes kit in)

the rear ubolts and bolt plates (under the axle) will be replaced (rust)

drums will be replaced (front discs are good)

shoes and pads will be replaced...

 

while im at it im going to replace the front axle seals too... joy

 

im already over $2000 in parts

 

im gonna be stimulating the economy big time come next week...

Edited April 11, 2020 by CUMMINSDIESELPWR

[hdpwipmonkey]

@CUMMINSDIESELPWR you should just get a hold of President Trump and tell him to just sign your stimulus check over to NAPA, it'll be easier... 

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

2 hours ago, hdpwipmonkey said:

@CUMMINSDIESELPWR you should just get a hold of President Trump and tell him to just sign your stimulus check over to NAPA, it'll be easier... 

"Mr President, i need a check for Me, Myself, and I.  Thanks!"

 

$3600

[Mopar1973Man]

20 minutes ago, CUMMINSDIESELPWR said:

"Mr President, i need a check for Me, Myself, and I.  Thanks!"

 

$3600

 

Ouch... Yup, I'm could use a bit of that stimulus check.

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

haha im glad im getting it, i need it.

 

so far  the front end is apart now, im glad i did the antiseize and red rtv to seal it in when installing the unit bearing, been in there for 10 years most in colorado winters and it took 3 light whacks of the BFH and it fell out.

 

spicer HD non-serviceable ujoints still good both sides front axle

serviceable balljoints both sides still good

serviceable tierod balljoints still good

 

just need to get a couple 12pt HUB to KNUCKLE 14mm bolts as they are "stripped" and dont want to reuse them again, the rest im going to clean up and reuse, they are still good.

 

tomorrow removal of rear brake hardware then on to brake line removal and disassemble front diff to replace the seals ive been holding off for years...  (and the cover needs a reseal)

[CUMMINSDIESELPWR]

i was able to refurb the parking brake hardware and it will be serviceable.  now to get that damn check to get parts....

Edited April 17, 2020 by CUMMINSDIESELPWR