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  2. Thanks for the nice comments Dave110.
  3. I wanted so bad to offer a rebuttal but knew I couldn't do it without letting my emotions get in the way, which is exactly what they wanted. Good response @JAG1! Very well said and with a cool head. You didn't let your goose get cooked, or your chicken either .
  4. Republicans/ Democrats means nothing there are all walks of people in everything. Many of my clients who are democrat also voted for Trump this last time around. I also want to say the most prominent Democrat of of them all cannot spell well at times. I try not to make him feel bad..... I just say, hey bud you can't spell it like that way.... here have more coffee and show him how to spell it. I try to be helpful rather than pointing out faults, My company has been working for him for 21 years. He is the most wonderful crabbiest customer I have.... wrote me a 7k tip and takes me and the wife out to diner all the time.
  5. There are those that want to evangelize to our little children introducing a future of confusion, instability and lawlessness (I did not write that to make you mad btw). The Bible actually talks about the future climate change and complete pollution of the world, written centuries before the industrial revolution, centuries before the internal combustion engine and centuries before any concern over population explosion. It also talks about lawlessness, and hate/ contention growing around the world. Keep in mind this all written when there was plenty of land to go around.
  6. Ah yes.... what the Bible talks about, 'the natural way of Man' He ment woman equally as well, teaching us how to live peacefully among each and everyone. He knew his teaching is needed as we are all wired for wrong doing, a propensity for wavering about in unstable selfish desires. We are all like that and no one deserves the right to be hammered by others until you do harm to someone.
  7. I think your personal life should be kept to yourself, that discrimination exists in each and everyone of us... otherwise why did the Bible say not to be judgemental to each and everyone of us. There is a storm of contention and judgement brewing toward others that believe different, a form of bullying, it only leads to discord and unrest. The problem comes down to the table when Gods precepts are no longer being taught in schools. They were written to help us remain mentally stable, to remain a peaceful world, having a peaceful sense of community toward each other. Chickens are different as everyone of them need to be cooked....
  8. E pluribus unum is our motto, you do lt.
  9. I hope in the future I can get lucky with a relationship as well. All mine have failed in a short order. Someday I would love to married. But I'm trying to be patient but...
  10. Recent divorce and that was my second. Never married a Christian gal before. I met a Christian gal recently. Boy what a journey I am on! I believe God has me on a path to a biblical relationship. I’m telling her things I’ve never shared about myself before. Grace is an amazing thing! God being in control lifts a ton of worry off my shoulders! Being able to share information and feelings without fear of disappointment condemnation is wonderful. I was trying to stay married and as a Christian there was no biblical reason to divorce a non believer. But finally she initiated the divorce and under that circumstance I am able to grant it. Bible says if an unbeliever asks for a divorce that we can do it. I believe that God did this. He has set me on a path towards a biblical marriage. Probably the biggest personal testmony I’ve ever had. So many changes in me. Sinful things dropping away. More changes than when I received Christ and was baptized. I don’t have near the possessions that I previously had, but the Bible speaks to that as well. I’m gone from a 4 bedroom 3 bath house with a 24x36’ shop full of stuff Into a 38’ 5th wheel. But I am happier now than I was with all my stuff.
  11. Oh Man I'm so sorry and what a nice looking family of refined folks too.
  12. https://www.gofundme.com/grasserboys wife's older sisters family friend...
  13. Yes he did. He was very private about his religion, guess that is me too. I still tear up every now again just thinking about him and mom. I know there will be reunion one day. Hex, I wish I had something good to offer you to get you thru what you are experiencing. We lost my wife's sister when she was 52 to a very aggressive form of cancer. She died 3 weeks after being diagnosed with it. I was lucky to be working close by and my company sent another super to my job and told me to take all the time I needed to be with her. That took some of the sting out of it, but still some of the toughest weeks of my life. She went way to early.
  14. What a good Dad you had Dave. Makin me want cry hearing this. Did he believe in our Lord, King of Kings?
  15. Many of them, and I feel the same way, believe in a certain quality of life. My father died just a few months after mom had to bring him a bottle to pee in. He hurt so bad he could not walk to the bathroom. He had rheumatoid arthritis and the doctor could never find anything to could help him deal with the pain. He made himself get up and go to work everyday except the last few months he lived. He also confided in me once a couple of years earlier that he was not going to give the hospital what little he and mom had. so I guess there can be many reasons not wanting to go on. I always believed that he got tired of the fight and the pain and let it take him.
  16. In conjunction with recent schooling I've attended, statistics have been showing that elderly suicide has spiked. It's unfortunate to know that the elder no longer feel valued in this world. I suspect it has allot to do with them ending up in nursing homes and also not wanting to end up in a condition in a nursing home...
  17. I heard that too.... that some are worse and make the chance for skin cancer even greater. You hear all sorts of things that you never know for sure anymore. I know that probably the most important thing is to try making our elders proud of what we are doing in life and try to make them have a good time as much as we can. Life is so short, so on Fathers day I let my daughters shoot my Henry rifle as much as they wanted and they loved it. After the big bar-b-que we made up a game for cash prizes, of course dad did the pay outs, but what a pleasure to see them having so much fun. And my wife tried so hard for the big prize she kept blowing it. It was hilarious.
  18. Yea i guess what i should be doing is trying to add "youth" to my life instead. The other tradeoff is that allot of commercially made sun screen is dangerous to your health also. So it's coming to a point where you gotta start making your own stuff so you know what's in it.
  19. Prayers from Oregon if you think He will listen to a not so perfect Cummins addict. I feel for her and you, it's tough realizing what short time we have with one another. My dear mother is really up there in years and only get to see her twice a year. I worry too because I've gotten sun burned the last few days.
  20. Hello all. Hate to sound negative, but i have had another recent development. I could use more of those prayers! My wife's mother, is in her late 50s. She's had cancer twice in her life now. This time she informed us that she has what's called actinic cheilitis. Pre cancerous skin condition. Involves exposure to the sun without protection. It's not a generic thing from what i understand. She's undergoing treatment using a nuclear cream to start the process. But she told us she's done fighting if it doesn't work. I understand her sentiment as she's had a very hard life. I just ask for prayer from Anyone willing as i don't want her to end this way. Too many people around me leaving too soon...
  21. Very sorry to hear of your gma's passing. From my experience rejoicing is part of grieving. If it were not for rejoicing the sadness would have overwhelmed me. All of this was made clear to me when we buried my father. We had service at our church and were to bury him in the courtyard. The responsibility of carrying his urn out of the church to the courtyard fell to me and my older brother. When we went to pick it up the weight of the urn caught me off guard and I almost fumbled it, all this with tears streaming down my face. At that moment I hear in the back of my head "Somebody get a dust buster, Dave done dropped his daddy". That slowed the tears and then just as if my father was standing beside me he started laughing and continued to laugh at me all the way to the courtyard. I was smiling before I got out of the church and felt as if he had is arm around me. When the emotions overwhelm, find something to celebrate about her life. It will help sustain you.
  22. Just need to be happy with any time spent with her at all. My wife only knew one of her grand mothers and she too passed when my wife was young, my wife is the youngest of a generation and all were gone before she was born. I was lucky enough to know my grand parents. Lost my Grand fathers early when i was in my teens and my grand mothers until my 30's.
  23. Well that settles it, gma has passed. 0415 today. Shall i grieve, or shall i rejoice? A bag of mixed emotions. But when i think of this certain situation, part of me remembers: 2 Corinthians 5: Awaiting the New Body 5 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. 6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. 7 For we live by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. not having her anymore, hurts in the aspect that i can't talk to her anymore or see her or share anymore memories with her. But one day, i will see her again! Amen!
  24. Thanks guys. Yesterday i got a chance to do a video call with my grandmother while she was in the hospital. I'm happy to have had been able to. Because today i guess she is now in coma state. It was the final goodbye, see you later ill miss you, exchange. Ive been reading, the term is called rallying. People who are dying suddenly seem to get better for a while then suddenly pass. Thinking back i think this is what she did then, because she was requesting to talk to everyone she could. She has been off fluids food for several days and the hospital said people last only a few days usually but can last longer. She was on day 7. She's one tough woman. Strongest I've ever seen. She was telling me about how people were talking to her(not living) and she wanted to see her dad. She said she could hear music too. Regardless, I'm better now. I took 2 hours away from work to have the call and went back to work after. I made peace with it and seem to handle okay for now. When i get the message that she is finally passed, i may be different but I'll know it's finally over for her... i anticipate it happening sometime this weekend. I've got family coming up for a big picture and the grandpa is going to be there too. That'll be the next one to focus on. Problem is he is kinda already gone so to speak. But we'll shall continue on and try to make memories anyways... Went to the docs today for a follow-up. Retested the urine and didn't find any blood! Hey thought it was strange considering he said their test kit was maxed out with blood count on the first test. I say it was the power of prayer! ;)
  25. absolutely, My go to in tough times

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